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DSMc said:
It fits because it is a reciprocal response.
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it seems like a non-sequitur. to reframe it in terms of american protectionism, say your tree business customers pay for access to chip drop. youd rather they use a different service, one sold by a local guy in town instead that costs a little more. and you somehow negotiate with chip drop for you to skim off an extra fee from your customers. theyre free to switch to that different service which is now more competitive with chip drop, but they still eat the cost
 
Making it more convoluted doesn't change the fact that a tax makes an item more expensive. In order offset that someone is going to pay more.
 
DSMc said:
So would it not be appropriate to have a level playing field on trade with these countries?
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those countries have their own interests just like america does. they can all push back and forth charging tariffs up the wazoo, but unfortunately in a globally integrated economy with just-in-time inventory supply chains its going to cause major disruption if the major tariffs actually get enacted. reminds me of the knowledge lost when the western roman empire collapsed, medieval monks still had the texts explaining how to build things but all the infrastructure was centuries gone so there was no way to recreate them
 
DSMc said:
Making it more convoluted doesn't change the fact that a tax makes an item more expensive. In order offset that someone is going to pay more.
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tariffs enacted by the american government are taxes on americans. when they go through you will personally pay higher prices for many things, that is how it works. you are the 'someone'. in essence tariffs are simply the most regressive taxation scheme
 
DSMc said:
Yes, and if it cost too much you buy it somewhere else.
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that is the fundamental idea, yes. however in the modern world the question then becomes 'can you?' like, does the thing you intend to buy exist locally anymore, does the ability to recreate it exist

americas manufacturing sector has been heavily offshored. i doubt it can be rebuilt even in a generation without industrial policy by a central government. certainly not by relying on market forces, it just isnt profitable enough. not until it costs pennies on the dollar to hire americans
 
I post for connecting with like minded people. However, I can at least say that I can do that without endlessly bad mouthing people or their beliefs.

Have a `nice day.
 
bobs yeruncle said:
that is the fundamental idea, yes. however in the modern world the question then becomes 'can you?' like, does the thing you intend to buy exist locally anymore, does the ability to recreate it exist

americas manufacturing sector has been heavily offshored. i doubt it can be rebuilt even in a generation without industrial policy by a central government. certainly not by relying on market forces, it just isnt profitable enough. not until it costs pennies on the dollar to hire americans
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I choose quality where I can over price. Unfortunately our limited manufacturing has tanked in many markets. Hell Chinese export goods are frequently better than ours these days.
I dare anyone to show me a quality domestic made axe for under $200…. Yes Council tool has some alright ones.. but we just don’t have the manufacturing anymore
 
What is going to happen when the employee termination at federal recreation facilities becomes a reality

No more monument visits in DC, our beloved Boundary Waters Canoe Area Wilderness, Mt Rushmore and Yosemite along with all the rest of the Federal Land and facilities

Will the public reaction be similar to what was heard about masks?'
 
Tom Dunlap said:
What is going to happen when the employee termination at federal recreation facilities becomes a reality

No more monument visits in DC, our beloved Boundary Waters Canoe Area Wilderness, Mt Rushmore and Yosemite along with all the rest of the Federal Land and facilities

Will the public reaction be similar to what was heard about masks?'
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No doubt where this is headed. The privatization of We The Peoples federal lands so they can frack, drill for oil, and strip mine OUR national treasures into oblivion. Thanks, but no thanks.
 
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Boomslang said:

While the UN is largely toothless and this resolution is more of a show of solidarity than anything, take a look at the countries the US aligned itself with in voting "no".

93 countries voted for and 65 abstained. Only 18 votes against, here they are in alphabetical order:

Belarus
Burkina Faso
Burundi
Central African Republic
Democratic republic of Congo
Equatorial Guinea
Eritrea
Haiti
Hungary
Israel
Mali
Marshall Islands
Nicaragua
Niger
Palau
Russia
Sudan
USA
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What an awesome list of thriving nations to mentioned in the same list as...
 
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