free tree work?

It's not being critical of the doctors just acknowledging the fact that they are mostly paid.

As for Cadillac driving turds being hauled out onto the streets, I think we as a country need to legislate some sort of reasonable connection between executive compensation and the lowest paid jobs in a company on an annualized basis. To the extent that these companies don't rely on welfare and medicaid programs to improve their bottomlines. That is the real crime.

But I digress.....
 
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...every accont exect that works at st. jude i see in memphis is driving a caddy and has a $500,000 home...

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My specultion with this would be; that those "executives" have proven themselves in their past vocation, whether it was business of some sort, or the medical field. And in their retirement (or semi-retirement) is spent volunteering at St. Judes.--That is typically how non-profits work.

But, that is my speculation. I don't know exactly.

And Jeff. Your concern is legitimate. I have noticed that volunteer relief organizations fail in this area of help: They fail to use (or ask) professionals in our industry for help. It is simply ignorance (lack of experience) with our work.

It suck, I know.
 
Herein lies another opportunity for the ISA and TCIA to advance the cause. There are trade shows in the non-profit sector where a booth could be set up as a professional service to them. There are plenty of for profits that service this niche. It is a huge market.
 
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...every accont exect that works at st. jude i see in memphis is driving a caddy and has a $500,000 home...

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My specultion with this would be; that those "executives" have proven themselves in their past vocation, whether it was business of some sort, or the medical field. And in their retirement (or semi-retirement) is spent volunteering at St. Judes.--That is typically how non-profits work.

But, that is my speculation. I don't know exactly.

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I have to respond to that... having worked for a non-profit and done consulting with several others. Most NP execs are paid ridiculously high salaries and get tons of bennies and soft money. They justify it by preaching about how much funding they secure for the organization... $16M comes in on your watch, you get a fat salary "for bringing it in"... which is bogus because teams of people, including assistants and lowly coordinators brought it in.

Non-execs are expected to work long hours in burnout conditions for low pay... because the mission is worth it. They should get their compensation as satisfaction for a valuable job well done. Execs don't follow that code, they bargain and scrap for big compensation packages just like the for profit guys do.

It's a dirty little secret that needs to be exposed along with all the other executive compensation gluttony.
 
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...every accont exect that works at st. jude i see in memphis is driving a caddy and has a $500,000 home...

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My specultion with this would be; that those "executives" have proven themselves in their past vocation, whether it was business of some sort, or the medical field. And in their retirement (or semi-retirement) is spent volunteering at St. Judes.--That is typically how non-profits work.

But, that is my speculation. I don't know exactly.

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I have to respond to that... having worked for a non-profit and done consulting with several others. Most NP execs are paid ridiculously high salaries and get tons of bennies and soft money. They justify it by preaching about how much funding they secure for the organization... $16M comes in on your watch, you get a fat salary "for bringing it in"... which is bogus because teams of people, including assistants and lowly coordinators brought it in.

Non-execs are expected to work long hours in burnout conditions for low pay... because the mission is worth it. They should get their compensation as satisfaction for a valuable job well done. Execs don't follow that code, they bargain and scrap for big compensation packages just like the for profit guys do.

It's a dirty little secret that needs to be exposed along with all the other executive compensation gluttony.

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Figures.
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Thanks for the inside info Chip.

That's what I get for giving them the benefit of the doubt...
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I meant no disrespect to the doctors at all, they do a great service. I have had some experience with non profit CORPORATIONS. There are very few executives donating their time. They could not operate if it was all volunteer. My point is that they are a BUSINESS, run by BUSINESS EXECUTIVES, who should feel an obligation to opperate professionally. They are in the business of helping sick people they should not knowingly allow private citizens to endanger themselves in the name of HELPING THE NEEDY. They could have asked for proffesional volunteers.
My question, who is going to pay the injured mans medical expenses? Who is going to provide income for his family now? Was he covered under St. Judes insurance or are they gonna play hardball when it comes to taking care of his issues?

Also, I agree somewhat about the Cadillac turds being drug out into the street, but lets not confuse For proffit Corporations, with non proffits. There is corruption in virtually all levels of all corporations. IMO
 
I don't know anything about St Judes, but this reminds me of some of the "Free service" I've seen at churches and the like. I'm all for community service, but it pains me to see the damage done to trees by well-intentioned volunteers.

We all need to do a better job of educating people as to the correct way to care for trees, and to the importance of not tackling a tree job if you don't know what you're doing. Volunteer to cut the grass and trim the bushes, and leave the trees to someone who knows what's what. A mistake on a bush is forgotten in a few days. Some mistakes cutting trees can last for decades or centuries.
 
dude really? they are paid a lot of money. i dated one of the pharmacist there, the $5000 dollar bonus she gets every 6 months could have paid for the clean up. come on i know there are sick children there, but st. jude has a multi million dollar budget. if you want to give free tree work to them write them a check and have an in town tree service do the work. then you are doing two goods for the price of one . work has been slow here there are numerous companies that would give more than a fair rate to help out. don't call my church and cry for free tree work by a bunch of inexperienced old timers thinking they are saving the world.
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For all we know it was some fall overs needing chainsaw work, don't know.

For just a reference point for Jeff - one kid with Acute Lymphocytic leukemia, getting an autologous Bone Marrow Transplant...runs well over a million bucks. They've performed more than 600 BMT's last year. The clinical staff at a regional cancer center are the best in the world - to get oncology specialists for pediatric patients and find staff that won't burn-out in four years (national average for childhood cancer care personnel), I'd up their salaries to a million each if I could. They earn it.

Now the local investment broker in that 1.5M home w/ the Range Rover and Escalalde? Go pick on him.
 
i still don't feel sorry for them the house where the work was being done was donated and is worth $50,000 more than mine. and they still need free tree work? i don't think so. i have friends that have a kid in there now and still don't think so. with your rational, all the construction work on that 1 mile square campus should be given away by the poor construction workers too? so that the poor little st jude has enough money to get by. but the construction workers can't feed their families? of course not. and people shouldn't be doing free tree work ether. donate money to pay a tree service, spend money in a bad economy, give help and free tree work to the truly needy, the ones in the parts of town were you wouldn't be caught at night with 10 cops by your side.
 
The maintenance manager and legal staff at St. Jude's dropped the ball on this. We know how dangerous a fallen tree can be to the uninitiated. We approach our work with respect for the dangers because we know what they potentially are. Untrained volunteers who can use a chainsaw but have no real knowledge of the risks are a hazard to themselves and those around them.

St. Jude's staff needed to be looking at the bigger picture and I am frankly surprised that they didn't.

In the end, no body is complaining about the money being paid to the excellent and dedicated medical staff there. The point of St. Jude's is to provide treatment that would be otherwise out of reach for many that need it. They do not rely on the staff to give it away everyday nor do they expect them to work for far less than the market pays. That is not realistic. However, somebody jumped the gun and now a volunteer is paying for it and St. Jude's is going to be held to account. That is pennywise, pound foolish.

This is another example of why we as pros are needed. Convey that to your clients.
 
I donate four days of free tree work to my Son's school . I figure somewhere around $12000.00 a year. I also pay near $7000.00 for his tuition. He is not even in 1st grade! My point is, I openly give my service because I believe it comes back around. Its a good thing, no matter what. I dont have money to donate so why not give what you are able? Thats my 2cents...take it or leave it....
 
shovel head. I'm right there with ya. There is a animal orphanage in Medford that I take squirels and other animals that I "evict" that I do this same thing for. I don't have the money to donate so I donate my time. I also do free work for those that can't afford it. Mostly widows on fixed, tight incomes. It usually leads to work from neighbors or friends of the person I'm helping. To tell you the truth, I could care less if I never got a thing from it. There appreciation if far better then a couple bucks in my pocket.

Jeff, keep fighting the good fight man, that's great that your willing to donate and organize. Awesome man.
 
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