Foot Lockin versus Rope Walkin

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Quite the opposite...as the climber moves up more rope is lifted each time. At ten feet there is 10' +/- feet to lift...at 100' a LOT more rope.

Beddas Strasser did a publicity footlook up some incredible height. At about 100' intervals he cast off/cut the rope below.
 
Thats funny.
I meant if I had to footlock 100' I would prefer to lift 11mm rope at 5lbs/100ft instead of 1/2" rope at 8lbs/ft.
Lift more than necessary every 3 or 4 ft with one leg for 40' opposed to 100'. Its not effecient to drag all that extra rope weight with every footlock.
Plus the strain of footlockin as already mentioned makes Ropewalkin an even smarter choice.

Rope Walkin is a misnomer.
I am a Rope Runner baby!
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BOs Roadrunner https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_Tdr-798D4

And
Here is 5min vid showing a few different trees with me Rrn.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv-6PLIvPxM

Cheers
 
My guys try to wraptor up most climbs,I will frog walk and footlock as well. I was training a climber today on how to footlock,frog walk and rope wrench.Wraptors great for making money ,get to the top work your way down easy easy. But the other stuff is fun,you can set up up all kinds of interesting techniques.Do what you like and what works with your body type and strengths.
 
After reading all of this, this post makes the most sense and gets to the bottom line....do what works FOR YOU and what you prefer....it's definitely not ROCKET SCIENCE by all means....
 
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After reading all of this, this post makes the most sense and gets to the bottom line....do what works FOR YOU and what you prefer....it's definitely not ROCKET SCIENCE by all means....

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I am all for that, but don't forget to listen to others that have gone down the road and have the t shirt!

While all my advice might not be sage, it is offered in the spirit of help, not the tyranny of my way or the highway.

Tony
 
Great point Tony. As I am all for "to each his own", There is a lot to be learned from others who have already made the mistakes. How many times over my life have we said " I wish I would have listened to my parents, teachers, elders...".
 
However that's real nice and all, but some folks HAVE to learn by their mistakes.... stubborness is a killer...I agree the information does need to be put out there for those that want to listen.....
 
Agreed in general. But some mistakes don't give you the opportunity to learn! Especially in our business. Thankfully the Lord has saved me from quite a few of my boneheads! Several that there was no way I should have walked away from. I'm not disagreeing w/ ya Swing.
 
Gotcha T'swing you are right about some mistakes being costly in this industry... I know it wasn't till I got in my forties till I started listening and heeding wise advice, I always thought I knew best and was invincible... I am fortunate to have made it past my thirties... Today I listen closely...
 
raptor would be the best way but here in ontario you can not host a person no lifting bye crane no raptor life would be easier if we could i still footlock but if its over 40 feet i use my foot acender but i try an keep it all simple manily for the new climbers when u start geting fancy with gear u loose there minds keep it simple an than give them lil more tricks on how too get into a trees but ive found if u can get fancy on your throw line tricks u can save some energy but main thing is climb smart an easy you will last longer
 
Wow, lot's of differences and opinions here.Cool to read and continue to see the advancements in this industry. Ya know I have this mentality a bit different than most I would say, old school, old breed work ethic and I still give some of the newer techniques a try and really give some things a chance and most of the time they just dont fit my anything. I am still Footlocking with a not too long prussic so I too can sit and rock back to advance and yes it's hard work. that is what I signed up for doing trees for 25 years. Ya know recovery hasnt been talked about. Some workers can for say blow their load ascending up but will recover quickly and back to work you go. Others not so quick, due to the lack of repetitive muscle memory conditioning. I think for me its one of those things that inside voice says, " keep doing it! Use it or lose it " So I am 43 now and still footlock and really have no problem with it. I have started walking up close to the trunk with my landyard long and no spikes just walk up pressing against landyard then taking up the slack in climbing line and keep going. before you know it your at your high point ready to rock. Hip thrusting no landyard is starting to get like... working too hard ergonomically. Listen to your body, treat yourself like and Industrial athlete because we ARE Athletes but just work much longer hours than an athlete with breaks us down more, Protein, eating right and rest and recover. Theres also that certain mentality you just have to have to keep going to get the job done and keep showing them how's it's done. if it's not done right! it's still not done! Guys I solute you all! we are all in this and know that we can not come home one day! Our job is dangerous, Safety should be the first and everlasting priority and give others the Ok to try being versatile with all the different styles it might take a long while for some beginners to really come into their own! but not to sacrifice anyones safety ever. Just my thoughts to share with you all! Climb safe! And dance like no ones watching!
 
Nicely said Passion....as human beings I truly believe genetics plays an integral part in how our bodies handle the rigors of life, sport and work....what might be good for one person might be poison for another just keeping this topic in perspective....
 
I like Passion's post. The "trunk walking" technique he describes was one I first saw demonstrated by Rich Hattier with his anchor bridge. It is also doable with a sliding bridge type of technique. Anyway, it's a good, low energy but hideously slow ascent technique in the body thrust style.

But regarding FL vs. rope walking, many have already pointed out that it has a lot to do with the distance. That's why I find the poll that this started with could use tweaking. It shouldn't be "more than 10 feet", it should be "10 to 50 feet". Up to 10 feet, probably anyone would foot lock (or maybe even body thrust) Over 60 feet, maybe 50, almost anyone would have to admit the energy efficiency of rope walking (even a footlocking fool like me).

I've footlocked for 34 years of climbing. Never had joint issues that I thought were associated with it, and that's with having totally shattered my left ankle 21 years ago. My FL times in competition actually increased over 12 years (until 2011).

I use rope walking now for multiple ascents (more than three a day) over 50 feet. Otherwise, it's FOOTLOCK ALL THE WAY, BABY!

And did someone REALLY propose doing away with it in competition? A pox upon you sir!
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Texas I was actually gonna use you as an example regarding footlocking.Weve talked in the past about your experiences with it and your longevity.I think alot of it has to do with the fact that you have stayed in really great shape thru the years.
 
Crazy Jimmy,
I think that's exactly what all Tree workers have to be prepared for is staying in shape to continue longevity for their job. If we are going to be in this type of work , we have to know for sure we are Industrial Athletes and then stay in shape and injury free to give us better chances for Longevity. @ swingdude... agreed .. so many different genetics and abilities out there. I still am one to find a way each person of different abilities and comfort levels can still over come challenges. We have so many different techniques to offer different levels. We will explore and experiment till we find our most beneficial way for each of us. Lot's of great comments on this site !
 

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