Fly by night tree services

[southsoundtree]

Trees are never as organized as when standing.

 

[Mowerr]

And usually when it's a smash and dash job, that we r doing cheap, we put her down fast and not it any organized fashion. So if they want us to do clean up we might be fighting through a tangled mess of limbs with wood piled on top.
If I have the feeling the customer might be opting for clean up then I bring a ground guy to stack the brush as it's coming down.

 

[TimBr]

@Mowerr; I guess my feeling when I read the above post is that if you would not want to have to deal with a bunch of randomly dropped trees yourself, you should probably not inflict that on your customer. You could tell them what will happen if you drop them as quickly and cheaply as possible, and that it is likely to be a major pain in the neck for them to clean it up if done that way.

For a slightly higher price we can bring in a ground guy and have him stack the brush neatly, as you described. In this way the inexperienced customer does not get an unexpected shock at the mess. They agree in advance to what will happen, with their eyes wide open. If they opt not to have you bring in a ground guy and to save the money, at least they've been warned what to expect in advance, and cannot blame you for the circumstance. So hopefully you end up with fewer unhappy customers. That is just my take on the situation. It might even mean a little more money in your pocket, and work for the ground guy more often.

Tim

 

[southsoundtree]

More money in taking risk, than stacking branches/ hour.

When it Put On Ground Only. There is ONLY as the unambiguous qualifier. How much should the brush be cleared-up would be a gray area. The homeowner will see how much labor is involved, and think the felling is a small part, but it is all the real risk.


I tell customers that we never dump it all and then clean-up if we are going to clean up.


Last time I sold a coarse-scale clean-up, no raking, no bucking below 20", the returning-from-college-should-be-earning-his-keep son, was not earning his keep. I went back weeks later for a cable install, and it was not raked.

I'd done more than I intended, because it 'hard' to leave a mess when doing partial-clean-up service, and you are used to full-clean-up, sometimes manicured lawns/ gardens.


They did get the chip mulch pile spread around their drought-sensitive and thirsty western redcedar, though.

Personal, knowing how to work, I would have done that final clean-up and mulching in half a day...

kids these day...

when I was a boy...

uphill both ways...

 

[Finky198]

@Mowerr; I guess my feeling when I read the above post is that if you would not want to have to deal with a bunch of randomly dropped trees yourself, you should probably not inflict that on your customer. You could tell them what will happen if you drop them as quickly and cheaply as possible, and that it is likely to be a major pain in the neck for them to clean it up if done that way.

For a slightly higher price we can bring in a ground guy and have him stack the brush neatly, as you described. In this way the inexperienced customer does not get an unexpected shock at the mess. They agree in advance to what will happen, with their eyes wide open. If they opt not to have you bring in a ground guy and to save the money, at least they've been warned what to expect in advance, and cannot blame you for the circumstance. So hopefully you end up with fewer unhappy customers. That is just my take on the situation. It might even mean a little more money in your pocket, and work for the ground guy more often.

Tim

Tim I totally agree. I do quite a few Cut and Drop jobs and You just have to read the client... Different strokes for different folks applies here big time.

Some Capable customers I just cut the big/technical stuff they handle it all, I keep it neat and on target they always call back...

Others I drop, Limb, and cut the big wood, They stack... 1/2 the people call back for clean ups. more money!!! If someone is not ""capable"" "The no-clean up option" is not even suggested.

I have lots of happy repeat cleints from this method.

 

[islandarb]

Always looks like more brush and debris when it's on the ground than when it is in the air.

Oh it is just a little tree. Ha ha

 

[Fivepoints]

We do cut and drops and full cleanups. If someone opts for cut and drop then later wants it cleaned up, the price will be more than the original full cleanup. For starters I'm having to make a return trip. Doing the cleanup while taking the tree down is much easier than trying to get that tangled mess delt with after the fact. Most times I'll chip while doing a full cleanup but doing a return to cleanup I'll use our grapple truck. Chips I can get rid of for free. Grapple truck loads cost money to dispose of.