Finally I get some Silky, but... which one?

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Hey Treebuzzers,

With the Change to a knew employer I finally get to move over to some Silky Hand saws... but which ones?
I'm not a Complete Arborist, just a highly qualified maintenece Gardener. The only Problem is that the range of Saws at Silky is enormous and I cant decide?? I've used Zubats before, actually quite a while ago. I'm allowed three so I was thinking a folding saw, a 270mm to 330mm and an over 370mm. the Tsurugi Curve is interesting but is it worth it??

thanks

Mal.
 
When I do pruning climbs I keep a Zubat 330 strapped on my left calf and a Sugoi 360 on my left hip. With the addition of the Sugoi to my harness, I find that my chainsaw stays on the ground more and more.
Instead of three saws I would pick two and extra blades my self. Or maybe the Hayauchi pole saw, I love mine.
I don't think I would find a saw longer then 360 too benifecial, just cumbersome in the tree. Are you using these strictly on the ground or.do you climb as well?

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Welcome to the Buzz Mal. I would say that if at all possible work out a way to try the saws you are interested in before you buy. Each Silky has its own personality and set of characteristics.

I bought an Ibuki early because I saw it used in a tree video doing bigger cuts. But it is more 'grabby' starting a cut and takes more umph than I care for. I tried a Zubat thinking it would be just right but, it is not as aggressive as I want. So now that is relegated to smaller more delicate pruning on yard trees.

Then I was working around a guy that had a Sugoi and asked if I could try it. That was just right for what I wanted. Funny when I went to buy one the specs on the blade seem to read the same as the Ibuki. Only thing I can figure out is that the blade is mounted in the handle differently and it tends to apply less pressure down it the cut.

I know a guy who carries the Tsurugi straight blade in the tree all the time and he loves it. I would think its narrow blade would be even more beneficial nearer the ground to get in on small unions.

Mal I hope to see posts from you and others in the future on longterm maintenance of more modest yard trees.
 
I carry the ibuki 390. It is a much stiffer blade than any of the other silkys I have found. I rarely take a saw up the tree for line clearance with it on my hip. Tsuguri 330 is very nice also. Use it for pruning quite frequently.
 
Hey Guys thanks for the Support,
I don't just do ground work. There's alot of smaller and middle high trees. I do do some long rope work, but not much maybe 10 trees a year. Although I'm not as fast on the line.

Unfortunatly I've not found a solid landscaping Maintenece Forum. Which is why I'm here. It's not all just mowing lawns for grannies either. It has quite a bit to do with psychology now days. Ecpecially Gardening in this decadent area that I have Chosen to live in.

I know what you mean Tyler over the 360 mark it's a big cumbersome saw. Do you use the the Zubat 330-7.5 or the 330-10

Merle I tought the Ibuki was designed that the teeth are alined such that they appear in four rows instead of two.This should improve the cutting area/performance. I can see the Advantages that the tsurugi could have, at all heights. Silky seam to have nearly everythung covered for everyone. what with all the different tooth configurations. Although I really am sick of straight bladed saws. I've been stuck with Felco's for quite some time now... never give an apprentice a felco.

Simple are you using the curve or the straight Version of the Tsurugi?
 
I use the 330 7.5. To be honest I didn't know there were options. My boss once bought 300 blades as opposed to the 330 and it was amazing how frustrating it was not having the extra reach. I had a Gomtaro for a bit, I didn't get a replacement blade for that one, love my Zubat.

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don't worry simpleiowaguy I won't overlook the Ibuki. they claim it is a chainsaw altrenative.

300 does Sound short tyler, I've been using a 240mm for ground work combined with the felco 200C pruning shears. Then a 330mm striaght blade for higher trees and I can tell sometimes a 420 sounds really appealing ;)
 
Good that you mentioned that, I'll look into getting a file. It can't be much harder to sharpen a hand saw than sharpening chainsaw properly
 
Malgummi said:
Good that you mentioned that, I'll look into getting a file. It can't be much harder to sharpen a hand saw than sharpening chainsaw properly
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The file from Silky is the only one that works that I know of.

As far as being easy to sharpen, I don't know. Every tooth has 3 different angles to file.

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If I got to choose 3 silky saws, I'd choose the same ones I bought 7 years ago: Zubat for pruning, Sugoi for removals, and Hayauchi telescoping 21 footer for a pole saw. I've replaced blades on each of them a time or two over the years, but they still do everything I want out of manual saws. As to sharpening them, the zubat is an impulse hardened blade. It's not meant to be sharpened. I bought a feather file, but realized quickly that the time I'd take to properly sharpen three surfaces on each tooth, was better spend doing what I get paid for...so the file sits in the box, and when I need a new blade, I know it's because I'm making money, so I buy one.
 
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