F8 vs. Munter Hitch

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Too few people use rappel back-ups in rock climbing scenarios where they are rappelling off of a climb, imo.

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Interesting. Here in Norway the awareness has been rasied about using a backup on rappel in the rock climbing comunity, (after a couple of fatal accidents)and I belive most people use one. (at least when rapelling longer distances)

We usually place a french prusik (variant, not the VT) below the breaking device, and just attach it to the footloop of the harness. That way the prusik dosnt need to lock up compared to full bodyweight, but only the amount it takes to hold a body through the belay device. Allowing for a smooth start after a stop.
 
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has anyone ever tried putting a bight of rope through the small hole of your F8 and the clipping a carabiner into the bight?

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I have and it works well but the ride tends to be a little fast.
 
all i got to say about a back up on a munter, f8, improvised stitch plate, or belay tube is make an auto block on the leg strap if you feel there is going to be a situation that you could lose control during the repel. if you need to stop a f8 you can take a soft lock and work hands, but not attention, free. if you are going to stop for a while you can do a hard lock with a mule knot back up
 
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However read this:

The Problem with Rappel Back-Ups Off "fast-buckle" Leg-Loops
 
I would NEVER move or do anything but stand absolutely still with a soft lock on a rap device. If I'm going to lollygag or move around I tie on a mule or hardlock it. Soft locks are too prone to slithering off somewhere...then the climber goes....
 
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