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SRT,
According to my computer your second to last post was at 4:48AM, and the second (where you say I reread this morning)was posted at 1:30 in the afternoon.
Hu, what where you doing up that early. LOL Well, I think it is funny.

Chears
 
Bourboun? You are forgiven my friend! Go for Irish whiskey and get a clear mind!
Cheers
Svein
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Is "promulgation" even a word? I've never seen or heard it. I can't imagine what it might mean.

[/ QUOTE ]A common word at that. Pick another's nits, and ye shall be nekkid 'fore the dawn.
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I received and email from Mr. Schenburn along with a lengthy Word document written to someone named Steve. Can I post his email and/or the attachment without his consent?
 
we all must remember that we may all be practicing things that in twenty years they will think are abdominable. i know I have that word wrong. I have no knowledge of the guy, but he may have a very loyal customer base and trees that he has cared for, for a very long time. He might even have pictures to prove it of trees he has worked wonders with. It would be interesting to meet him. I wonder if when he says flush cut he really means flush cut. Seems like a character.

When I think about it, The companies that I am actually more concerned with are the ones that are 90% removals. They would never think of painting a cut. To me, I admire the guy for taking the time to paint wounds. I have heard conspiracy theories that the whole wound painting reversal was inspired as a time and cost saving measure. Although I have seen enough unhealed painted wounds to know that it can be bad.
Painting wounds really has to suck. If you miss one, it sticks out like a sore thumb. Its kind of to bad that it has been proven bad. It seems like it would force you to take your time on each cut. Like if you had to give each wound you make on the tree a little get well kiss.

It also seems to me that there has to be a difference in the type of paint you apply. That petroleum spray goo that they sell in the hardware store just cant be good for anything ever. Like, pouring motor oil in your finger when you cut it is bad, but there are things that you can do to make it heal faster. Bandaids help. I dont think all wound dressing should be wholly discounted.

So if anything else, you got to respect this guy for giving the trees his time and patience. He does not advertise topping which puts him above many. He has a secret rigging system that other arborists dont use. I would like to see it. I think what is so striking about all this is its presence on the internet. Its kind of like how did this guy in 1962 get a website?
 
I am interested to know his side of the story.


This is one of the more interesting posts I have watched blossom.


I like the back and forth between feeling bad for picking on the guy and observations on the absurdity of some of the content of his website.


Either way, that website should win some kind of award for unique-ness of design. I mean, the copper teapots are the bee's knees.

SZ
 
My email to him asks just that about the sealing compound. I stated in my note (truth) that my grandfather use to paint (not sure what was used) trees when a limb was remove. And I requested from him additional information about using this item.

I will say, he was very polite in his note back to me.

OPPS grill is smoke'n (can't spell for nothing tonight)

jz
 
TL and Jersey,

You should really ask his permission to post his reply first. Be upfront and let him know that you found out about him here at TB. Invite him to join the conversation.

Does anyone remember back a few years ago when Harold McPeak was roasted? He would reply to emails and blast right back. It was almost comical to hear how he would defend using climbing spikes 'the correct way' to not damage trees. He was incorrigible :)

Always be ready to take advantage of a teachable moment.
 
Thank you - wonderful guidance.

Let me say this first - I am not an arborist nor do I claim to have any knowledge other then a tree grows in brooklyn.

SHOULD I receive his permission - I will post the note that I have composed and mailed back and my original note. I will post ONLY the text that he has approved if no approval is received then no post.


NOW - Understand - I am inviting him to review this tread and I will provide him with a link and instructions on how to find this post.

Are there ANY concerns, comments or dimpled CHADs that might want this to not go any further?

Let me know - I will return to my corner and finish that book I was reading – “How to Prune a tree.”


thanks

jz
 
"Let he who has not sinned..."
"People who live in glass houses..."
Maybe I'm fired up because I have mis-treated trees myself. Spikes for pruning, flush cuts, I didn't know what a branch collar was. I had to teach myself 'cause nobody else knew what was going on. Now that the season is rolling again, every time I turn around I see some "tree cutters" hackin' up another one.
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I won't post his email, but this is how I responded to it...

Sir,

I hold much respect for hard workers. You sound like a hard worker. My comments were a reaction to the content of your website. I have not seen your work practices first hand (or the long-term effects of those practices). As such, I cannot assume that you are failing to use industry standard practices. However, your comment regarding compartmentalization leads me to believe that you may be lacking information on the fundamentals of tree biology and in turn, tree care.

My intent was to promote proper arboriculture. I will not contact you again.

Taylor L. Hamel
ISA Certified Arborist MN 4122A
 
Well I obviously didn't know what promulgation meant. What does it mean in this context?

"We seal all sizeable cuts and make flush cuts as close as possible to achieve a better growth promulgation."
 

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