@oakwilt, why is it that you have to attack other people that disagree with you. It's been a slurry of name calling, belittling, and crap from you. This is a big part of problems in society today. If someone doesn't agree with you they are idiots, or racist, or anti- whatever, or need to just leave the country. Why can't people like you just have a damn debate without resorting to that stuff? I'm guessing you won't answer me because I've read every post in this thread and see that is your common theme. At least
@rico was man enough to apologize for his comment about working timber size to @hsell. The personal attacks and name calling are a sign of fear. When you have nothing else you fall to that level of "conversation".
Now as for saying, this is over, the kid's have won, just accept it or leave, I disagree. All you are doing there is trying to intimidate and push other people around. We are a democracy for a reason, this is not a dictatorship and you and a group of protestors don't get to just force people to accept things.
You mentioned "whitey cops" at one point. Is it fair for me to say you're anti-white and ant-police? So as a liberal? ( An assumption based on your anti-right statements) are you admitting to being racist? Our society has now associated race with skin color. And I see whitey used as a derogatory term based on skin color alone. Lord knows if one was to refer to someone as "some blackie protestor" they would be banished from the site for racist comments.
All that aside, I'm just trying to say you can't have it both ways. Just because you want it your way you can't just force people to accept it.
Now as someone who has been shot at, I will agree that it's scary as hell to say the least. I agree that we need laws governing firearms and the people that can own/ possess them but also understand that laws don't stop people from violating them.
What we need to correct is why the kid's are shooting up their own schools. We have brewed a society of children that are never allowed to fail. They always have "friends" and don't get to be upset by other people. This dooms them when real life hits. My children are still in elementary school. All of their classmates are refered to as"friends". The teachers call them as friends rather than students. The "anti-bullying" trend is out of control. Kids get picked on by each other, it's what they do. It helps build thick skin and teach them about real life. But it isn't allowed anymore and gets punished heavily. But then they hit the real world and people start talking to them the way you're talking to hsell and they don't know how to handle it.
We are growing a population of entitled "get it your way or throw a fit" kids . And God forbid anyone have a different opinion. There have been students punished for have pro 2a protests at school. Why? What about free speech being equal? These are some problems with what we're doing with our kids.
My boy's all know how to loose, how to be wrong, how to handle not getting their way, and how to be punished for doing wrong. How many kids can say the same.
Even you Wilt, are not handling someone having a differing opinion from you, and you're an adult. I think.
Bottom line is, we need to fix our people so that we can fix our laws.
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