DON'T EVEN TRY IT!
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Treetopflyer
Been here much more than a while
- Location
- Coastal N.J
It's all about the angle of the stangle
southsoundtree
Been here much more than a while
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- Olympia, WA
When a jealous person has no real retort, it can often degrade to 4th grade antics, for some posters.
This is nothing new.
There was a Boy Scout, but no 'stuck in the box'...just wait, it's coming.
Ignore one or two people, and enjoy the rest.
Chaplain242
Branched out member
The article is a great start to the conversation, but without introducing vectors it is limited in its ability to present findings.
Mitigating slack is the other issue (also the reason I didn’t go the safe-bloc) and why the riggin-wrench was devised. Could modify the riggin-wrench by incorporating 2 or 3 swinging wrenches to the body of the device to fix the slack handling and increase load capacity.
The safe-block does lower compression which on some compromised trees is a benefit from the double load of a basal tie, with the cost of having to ensure shock load is not increased. But the vector could be an issue as a basal tie with frictionless rigging halves the angle made by rigging rope through block for the load direction, whereby high friction would put the load direction in line with the segment joining load to rigging point - which in some compromised or weak trees is worse than the load angle of a basal tie...
RopeShield
Carpal tunnel level member
- Location
- Ontario, Canada
Daniel
Carpal tunnel level member
- Location
- Suburban Philadelphia (Wayne)
Transcribed from Reg Coates latest video:
some out there who perhaps are into
safety because they genuinely care
there's others who are into it because
they care about money and they see
revenue and there's every reason
for industry standards and safeties
to further enhance or be
changed around or swapped and changed
and that's become an industry in itself
training it didn't used to be not in
tree work but now it is
and then there's
other individuals too because I've come
across plenty of them who have gone down
that Avenue because they were they came
up short somewhere along the line when
they were doing the job themselves and
I suppose the way they can close that gap is
they'd rather drag people down to their
level then let them take off
it's kind of it happens on work sites
all the time you know I I experienced as
soon as the young climber when I was
being held back by people or obstructed
by people because they were threatened
you know because I had the ability to
surpass them you know a quicker route
learning more natural ability the mental
fortitude you know whatever it was you
know I was just better
I shouldn't have been punished for that
but you know in a sense you know I was
come up against some obstacles along the
way and it was always personal so you
can't assume that just because
somebody's involved with training and
regulation
now they are not those same
obstacles you know they've been they're
all theories at label today don't be too
judgmental but it's something to keep in
mind you know you do have to question
people's credentials in general so I
always hope that by pointing out videos
of real-life situations and it would
always be a comparison that and yeah it
was I've enjoyed it for the best part
and I've done some stuff where
there were people who I've been doing
tree work longer than they've been alive
and they've said to me oh that's not
safe. well he just watched
me do it perfectly
they seem to have lost the
ability to think for themselves this
little living in fear that rule books
and stuff like that and this it's it's a
terrible shame and unfortunately there
seems to be more of them than there is
of us. That's the way it's going at the moment
that small proportion of people who
for whatever reason they deny
what their eyes are seeing and try to
find something to nitpick some hole
that they think they can
exploit and I can only put it down - it
must be a sense of self inadequacy on
their part as that's what it must be .
because they see something that
they've never done. although they can't
do that they've never tried.
they have never created that opportunity
for himself so there's some resentment
there you know and so they try to see
something, some way that they can make
criticism and unfortunately for them in
their eagerness and impulse to do that
they're too hasty. they don't
think through what they put out.
these people just feel like
they've got to find a criticism
somehow and that's gonna make gonna
compensate for their own shortcomings
a real twisted notion you know incentivized by
kind of a cynical kind of toxic outlook
I'm just bloke doing my job
don't be a silly cunt all your life if you're one of them people
go out and climb your own mountain
you know go find something to do don't
don't be a spectator all your life and
an unhappy one at that because you've
seen things that you've never done.
the best way to get over that sense of
inadequacy or whatever is your feeling
of dissatisfaction with yourself or your
life is to actually go out and achieve
something it doesn't have to be what I'm
doing it can be something else that'll
make you feel equally as good and then
you'll watch videos like mine or someone
else's and you won't feel so resentful
of it.
some out there who perhaps are into
safety because they genuinely care
there's others who are into it because
they care about money and they see
revenue and there's every reason
for industry standards and safeties
to further enhance or be
changed around or swapped and changed
and that's become an industry in itself
training it didn't used to be not in
tree work but now it is
and then there's
other individuals too because I've come
across plenty of them who have gone down
that Avenue because they were they came
up short somewhere along the line when
they were doing the job themselves and
I suppose the way they can close that gap is
they'd rather drag people down to their
level then let them take off
it's kind of it happens on work sites
all the time you know I I experienced as
soon as the young climber when I was
being held back by people or obstructed
by people because they were threatened
you know because I had the ability to
surpass them you know a quicker route
learning more natural ability the mental
fortitude you know whatever it was you
know I was just better
I shouldn't have been punished for that
but you know in a sense you know I was
come up against some obstacles along the
way and it was always personal so you
can't assume that just because
somebody's involved with training and
regulation
now they are not those same
obstacles you know they've been they're
all theories at label today don't be too
judgmental but it's something to keep in
mind you know you do have to question
people's credentials in general so I
always hope that by pointing out videos
of real-life situations and it would
always be a comparison that and yeah it
was I've enjoyed it for the best part
and I've done some stuff where
there were people who I've been doing
tree work longer than they've been alive
and they've said to me oh that's not
safe. well he just watched
me do it perfectly
they seem to have lost the
ability to think for themselves this
little living in fear that rule books
and stuff like that and this it's it's a
terrible shame and unfortunately there
seems to be more of them than there is
of us. That's the way it's going at the moment
that small proportion of people who
for whatever reason they deny
what their eyes are seeing and try to
find something to nitpick some hole
that they think they can
exploit and I can only put it down - it
must be a sense of self inadequacy on
their part as that's what it must be .
because they see something that
they've never done. although they can't
do that they've never tried.
they have never created that opportunity
for himself so there's some resentment
there you know and so they try to see
something, some way that they can make
criticism and unfortunately for them in
their eagerness and impulse to do that
they're too hasty. they don't
think through what they put out.
these people just feel like
they've got to find a criticism
somehow and that's gonna make gonna
compensate for their own shortcomings
a real twisted notion you know incentivized by
kind of a cynical kind of toxic outlook
I'm just bloke doing my job
don't be a silly cunt all your life if you're one of them people
go out and climb your own mountain
you know go find something to do don't
don't be a spectator all your life and
an unhappy one at that because you've
seen things that you've never done.
the best way to get over that sense of
inadequacy or whatever is your feeling
of dissatisfaction with yourself or your
life is to actually go out and achieve
something it doesn't have to be what I'm
doing it can be something else that'll
make you feel equally as good and then
you'll watch videos like mine or someone
else's and you won't feel so resentful
of it.
When I first heard Reg's statement you were one of the first people who popped into my mind Daniel. Your a man who desperately wants to soar with the eagles, and play with the big boys, but instead is relegated to being a lazy backyard hack who spends an inordinate amount of time bloviating, blowing smoke up your own ass, and attacking men who do things you are utterly incapable of doing...
Just a small sampling of the quality of work some of your dissenters (OwScott, Swingdude, Chisel Bit, and TreeVB) are capable of. Are you fucking kidding me. So much for a sense of inadequacy, or a dissatisfaction in ones life. These are some world class mofo's, who like myself fully understand the potential dangers of what you advocate for around here....
Could you imagine what might happen if any of these men attempted to try some of your nonsense in that kinda wood? I shudder to think of it.
So as long as you continue posting up and advocating for dangerous hackery like this, some of us will continue to be on you like white on rice buddy-
Just a small sampling of the quality of work some of your dissenters (OwScott, Swingdude, Chisel Bit, and TreeVB) are capable of. Are you fucking kidding me. So much for a sense of inadequacy, or a dissatisfaction in ones life. These are some world class mofo's, who like myself fully understand the potential dangers of what you advocate for around here....
Could you imagine what might happen if any of these men attempted to try some of your nonsense in that kinda wood? I shudder to think of it.
So as long as you continue posting up and advocating for dangerous hackery like this, some of us will continue to be on you like white on rice buddy-
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Daniel
Carpal tunnel level member
- Location
- Suburban Philadelphia (Wayne)
I've done my share of big nasty trees and posted video starting in 2009, well before most:
This was 2010. If you can find a video of someone taking out these kinds of tops before 2010 post it. Even to this day, you will not find anyone that has shown a large top getting taken out with a push of the hands as shown at 5:39
This was 2010. If you can find a video of someone taking out these kinds of tops before 2010 post it. Even to this day, you will not find anyone that has shown a large top getting taken out with a push of the hands as shown at 5:39
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Daniel
Carpal tunnel level member
- Location
- Suburban Philadelphia (Wayne)
everybody walked away from this tree, the electric company (aspludh) the township, the state. Easy tree! (when you know what you're doing)
RopeShield
Carpal tunnel level member
- Location
- Ontario, Canada
Daniel
Carpal tunnel level member
- Location
- Suburban Philadelphia (Wayne)
This was 2009....
Daniel
Carpal tunnel level member
- Location
- Suburban Philadelphia (Wayne)
There is a reason Scott Parry has 3 Youtube subscribers, van brunt has 73, and I have nearly 10,000.
No disrespect meant, those are all fine videos of good tree work, but how many crane videos do we have to watch?
I've been showing cutting edge techniques and extraordinary videos for over a decade:
this was 2010... nothing like this had been shown at the time
ps.. what you can never get from video is that it was 102 degrees in the afternoon sun on that second tree (the beech)
No disrespect meant, those are all fine videos of good tree work, but how many crane videos do we have to watch?
I've been showing cutting edge techniques and extraordinary videos for over a decade:
this was 2010... nothing like this had been shown at the time
ps.. what you can never get from video is that it was 102 degrees in the afternoon sun on that second tree (the beech)
Daniel
Carpal tunnel level member
- Location
- Suburban Philadelphia (Wayne)
This is another oldie but goodie from 2010. I was 50 at the time.
The prosecution rest its case your honor, and would ask that the jury to find Daniel Murphy guilty of being a bloviating, self-aggrandizing, old backyard hack.....
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Chaplain242
Branched out member
1:15 should have never been posted on the internet - that is the difference between you and other youtube posters...
I particularly like the segment starting at 3:17... You would figure after all those years of "cutting edge techniques" and "extraordinary videos" you would have learned how to sharpen a saw and make a proper undercut...
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