DON'T EVEN TRY IT!

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[owScott]

No, what I did was put in 2 hours of honest skilled work, and in return I was payed fairly for my efforts. What I didn't do was gouge some nice hardworking folks out of their hard earned money by charging them way tooo much for my services. As I said earlier, fuck greed and fuck getting over on people. This is how I have been operating for over 40 yrs and its worked out just fine for me Daniel. At 56 yrs old I am what is known as finacially secure, meaning the wife and I have accumulated enough wealth and savings to get through the rest of our lives without the need to continue earning. I believe that is because both us us have treated people fairy and in return the universe has treated us fairly.. Funny how that works, huh.. Just this morning I was headed out the door to go fall a pretty nice Redwood snag when I got a call about a windfall Redwood down is a swampy area.. A neighbor had a Redwood come down rootball and all, and tear out their waterline... I donated a few hours to the community and got the tree freed up from the stump, the stump stood back up, and the logs skidded. In return I got 2000 board foot of logs to mill up and a heartfelt thanks. A good morning in my book. The Redwood snag can wait till tomorrow.

Someone bidding $6000 for the job doesnt mean it was worth 6k, they didnt get the job. Since when did $1500 for 2 hours of climbing , no big equipment become leaving money on the table? The HO said NO at 6k but yes at $1500 therefore there was no extra $4500 to be had. Where do you all get your reasoning from.

 

[ppsavage]

I consider my tree works to fall into the fine arts category

 

[owScott]

No. Insurance Co. got taken. One of the leads closest to the house is resting on it. Storm damage. Luckily it didn't have enough time to fall as it only mangled the soffet. Had it had 10 more feet of room I have no doubt it would have cleaved the house.
Damage Potential was very high as we had to work next to a late 1800's septic system that was still working and exact location was a guess.

I appreciate your honesty, admitting someone got taken and that the price was way inflated. Silver Poplar, i do alot of them. IMO that was a 4k-6k tree.

 

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I wasn't the highest bidder either. Just something else to consider.

 

[islandarb]

My perspective is all fucked up Scott because a $13,000-$14,000 removal to me means a big nasty 240 ft back-leaning Fir over a very expensive mansion, with a bunch of Ferrari's parked underneath it, and a newborn baby left right next to the stump with a GoPro attached to his stroller so he can get a good view of the goings-on....

Just to give you an idea of how I operate, me and my groundie did a 150-160 ft, love em' and run dead Fir last week for $1500. We were in and out in 2 hours and I felt like we were payed very well for our hard work and expertise, and the HO's had gotten their moneys worth.. A win win for everyone... When we were loading up the HO thanks us and told us that the nearest bid was $6000 . Granted I am a small time operator with very little overhead, but $6000 for that tree was straight up robbery and greed in my view.. Fuck greed...I'm just a dumbass old climber and logger with a 8th grade education and making $750 an hour for doing what I love to do is quite allright with me.. Don't tell anyone but I would of done it for half that. I guess I am just an old-school fool who takes great pride in knowing that I am truly earning my money, and that my clients are truly getting their moneys worth...

Erik we can hold hads on doing a fair rate for my work. I also have very low overheads. I like my job and just like to keep working daily.

 

[Daniel]

The opening footage (0:00-0:17) shows us all we need to know

The opening footage (0:00-0:17) shows us all we need to know

Yes that's correct.. the opening footage shows me pulling a back leaning rotted maple, where the hinge was mostly punky, over the creek. Once it cleared the creek it laid up harmlessly in a nearby tree, where it was quickly and easily (with one cut and the pull line left tied in its original position) freed and dropped. The total time in freeing the tree was less than 10 minutes. Now we are talking about a tree with 60 degrees of back lean over a creek and no suitable tie in points in nearby trees.

So before you open your foul mouth one more time, do me a little favor... SHOW ONE VIDEO OF PULLING A TREE WITH 60 DEGREES OF BACK LEAN AGAINST THE LEAN.

That was 2010. No tree with that much back lean has ever been videotaped before or since @Tony .

Then tell me you have never hung a tree on another nearby tree and had to free it up. Tell me you would have easily made the lay with that punky backleaner 100 out of 100 times. Anyone with a mouth like yours better be that good.

 

[rico]

Then tell me you have never hung a tree on another nearby tree and had to free it up. Tell me you would have easily made the lay with that punky backleaner 100 out of 100 times. Anyone with a mouth like yours better be that good.

As I said earlier Daniel, I have cleared hundreds of hung up trees in my life, and although most were not of my making, some of them were. The difference betweeen you and I is that when I do happen to make a subpar cut and badly miss my lay I dont try and tell the world "I MEANT TO DOTAHT"....Instead I will have an HONEST look at my cut and figure out why I just FUCKED UP. A missed lay is a missed lay Daniel, and all your never ending, bloviating, self-promoting, nonsensical nonsense is just that... Fucking nonsense....

 

[southsoundtree]

That was 2010. No tree with that much back lean has ever been videotaped before or since @Tony .

In the entire world, NOBODY has done what you have done.


You're so amazing.

You can pull hard on trees.

Amazing.

How do you do it?

Amazing.

You are so far outside of the Boy Scout box it's hard to comprehend how amazing you are.

Amazing!!

Maybe Rico, for one, could come carry your big saw and beat your wedges in exchange for lessons in pull trees.

Maybe then he could put the skidder winch to use for the first time.

That would be amazing.

IDK about Rico's, but my neighbor's skidder has about a 40,000 pound winch on his skidder.

He may want to come learn from the master.
He could have done real tree work for the last 40 years if only he could have been your apprentice. Then, he might be 1/4 amazing.

 

[ppsavage]

Apparently Daniel gets paid and paid well ain't that the object of the game?

 

[Daniel]

Erik and Sean,
No one has ever before or since posted a video of pulling a back leaning tree with that much lean (60 degrees). If you say that's BS, just post a link to another video.

The other thing I AM saying is that the only way to get the hung maple from that video to the lay was to pull it 180 degrees to the lay, until it was free of the obstacle tree, then let the pull line act as a right angle retainer line to guide the tree to the ONLY POSSIBLE LAY. The tree had plenty of lean and weight towards that lay so once it was stood up, due to the punky nature of the hinge fibers, the hinge failed and the tree dell perfectly into the only open LZ. The tree cleared the obstacle tree by only a matter of feet, and then cleared the fence on the near side of the LZ by around 5 feet. Video doesn't lie.

If dropping a rotted maple 90 degrees to the pull with a preplanned hinge failure is beyond your comprehension of what is possible after you just saw it executed perfectly, I can only offer you the same advice as Reg: "Don't be a silly cunt all your life". Personally, I believe Sean is a lost cause in that regard, and only wish I could say it to his face in that sexy Brit accent. On a more positive note, Erik, there may be hope in new treatments for your brain damage. Have you tried neurofeedback?

 

[RyTheTreeGuy]

If it is not posted on you tube it has never happened anywhere, by anyone...lmfao. I like you tube, but I also realize that only a small portion of the world has access to it or even gives a shit. You are not the only one who has ever done anything. Get your head out of your ass and move on

 

[Daniel]

If it is not posted on you tube it has never happened anywhere, by anyone...lmfao. I like you tube, but I also realize that only a small portion of the world has access to it or even gives a shit. You are not the only one who has ever done anything. Get your head out of your ass and move on

When someone first publishes something, that publication is the thing that has nerve been done before. I never said I was the first person to pull a 60-degree backleaner. YOU GUYS ARE SUCH UGLY HATERS.

 

[Daniel]

Erik, you might be able to benefit from neurofeeback:

 

[Matthew Stone]

I got one posted up on my old youtube of the last few seconds of pull on a maple sent to me by the homeowner that's probably 45, it's not 60 but hey, I'm new. Big tree, what's left of it. Had another side that tore off in a storm weeks before and cracked what's there. Done by myself with a massdam and wedges though, with a spare 1/2" line as a backup up high with prussic for progress capture. Took and hour + of tickling the hinge and pounding stacked wedges, transferring to the massdam, back again. I don't have many pics but the one I'll post clearly shows how windy it is with the plumb blown a few degrees off level. I actually pulled about 20 degrees harder on the downhill side figuring for the wind and uphill weight taking it when it finally released. It did, and landed spot on. The picture is clearly not from a good angle to show the lean.. but I think the point is there. It was for an old friend of my grandfather's, and no, I didn't charge enough, hence no machinery. In the video you can see the backcut is already opened up 6" or better before it took to moving. Picture is off and old phone, sorry for the quality.

Be gentle fellas

 

[Daniel]

Excellent work... tough to tell just how far that tree lifted before you started videotaping, but given the size and species (silver maple) and the fact that you were solo with a madsam, that took some courage.

 

[Matthew Stone]

Thank you dan, I appreciate it. I've never been into showing off my work, just got a GoPro yesterday so I'm moving forward.. one day at a time. I have learned a lot from you over the course of my days through your videos, as well as others on the site.

 

[rico]

Personally, I believe Sean is a lost cause in that regard, and only wish I could say it to his face in that sexy Brit accent. On a more positive note, Erik, there may be hope in new treatments for your brain damage. Have you tried neurofeedback?

Speaking of brain damage, can you imagine the special sort of village idiot it would take to consistently make these kind of cuts Daniel? Clearly that boy ain't right in the head....

 

[Daniel]

more BS when you're the last load has been thoroughly debunked and you don't have a leg to stand on. You simply throw mud without substance. You can't offer any type of criticism that furthers the conversation or helps people learn something. Your ugliness, name-calling and hateful attitude does exactly the opposite, by chasing good people away forever.

In the meantime, I'll keep putting trees on the ground and showing unusual ways of doing it.

Here's another spectacular video. Throwing a big top (21" diameter and something over 40' high) such a distance (22') from such a low height has not been shown before or after.
Go ahead and throw some more mud cause that's all you can do!

 

[rico]

BS? Throwing mud without substance? Are those photos of your cuts or not Daniel?

Debunked? Are those your vids of not Daniel? Either we all witness a limb locked top pull a tree hard to the left, or we didn't. Either we all witnessed you shank a tree 75-85 degrees off lay to the right and get it hung up, or we didn't. Either we all witnessed a smashed play structure sitting underneath a dead tulip top, or we didn't...Either we all witnessed some serious stump-pull as it progressively yanked a tree to the left, or we didn't.

Not so "SPECTACULAR" me thinks, but what the fuck do I know?