Documenting my hand-sewn eye process

CBM · Apr 29, 2015

Couple of 8mm eyes. Trying different stitch lengths for strength. Used 277 thread and 7×3×130 needle

TylerPienta · Apr 29, 2015

How much thread do ya'll average for a 2" stitch in a climbing line?

TylerPienta · Apr 30, 2015

Finished my first eye. Not the cleanest but it's holding body weight right now

TylerPienta · Apr 30, 2015

Btw, here's a better picture that shows the compression maintained. The picture above was with me hanging in it.

bonner1040 · Apr 30, 2015

Those stitches look like the first of three passes that a CNC bar tacking machine would make. No doubt they hold your weight in a garage. Professional recommendation? Don't use stuff like that in life or death scenarios.

TylerPienta · Apr 30, 2015

bonner1040 said:
Those stitches look like the first of three passes that a CNC bar tacking machine would make. No doubt they hold your weight in a garage. Professional recommendation? Don't use stuff like that in life or death scenarios.

yeah, like i said, it was my first attempt on a short 3' piece of rope. next time around i need to make the final pass wider into more "Meat" of the rope. i could put a fourth pass on this one and it would be super bomber. i plan on sending some stuff to break soon. Hell, i could do a foruth pass and use this for a split tail probably.. or just make a bomb proof dog leash

gmcttr · Apr 30, 2015

This is what you are trying to duplicate...

JTree · Apr 30, 2015

Watching that just about completely demoralized my efforts to learn this craft. Also makes me wonder why a spliced eye costs 15 bucks. I know the machine is expensive, but dang......like next to no labor cost in that process unless there is more to the setup than I imagine.

bonner1040 · Apr 30, 2015

TylerPienta said:
blah blah.. or just make a bomb proof dog leash

TylerPienta · May 1, 2015

Left over from a hitch cord. Would work wonderfully for tending a HH. 4 passes. The fourth pass was a much wider angle but when I was done you couldn't get a needle in the cord.

Richard Mumford-yoyoman · May 1, 2015

gmcttr said:
This is what you are trying to duplicate...

That's exactly what I'm trying to duplicate

Can't wait for it to arrive. HIGHTEX rocks!!!
It will never pay for itself but the things I will be able to do!

Richard Mumford-yoyoman · May 1, 2015

...and I'm all for hand sewn splices and appreciate the research and skill moss started here and that others have contributed to.
The process can work and some of the disadvantages of hand sewing can become advantages.
That being said, and those that are doing it successfully understand the risk, make sure you get them tested. Whatever process you chose, make sure you document it and repeat it exactly for each spice.
If you can't get them tested, test them yourself to failure and make sure that failure is NOT your splice. If the line breaks other than where your spice is you are good to go, if not, you need to have it tested and get a number where the splice failed.
Hanging on the spice in your garage is MEANINGLESS, TOTALLY MEANINGLESS.

gmcttr · May 1, 2015

yoyoman said:
...Hanging on the spice in your garage is MEANINGLESS, TOTALLY MEANINGLESS.

Yep...I'm confident I could hang "in the garage" with only 10 stitches holding the eye. Not gonna do that in a tree.

yoyoman said:
...Can't wait for it to arrive. HIGHTEX rocks!!! ...

You're killing me.

TylerPienta · May 1, 2015

oh, i never said that was good enough, i just wanted to hang on it. i plan on sending some stuff out to get tested soon but right now i need to save my money to help my mom pay for a trip to chicago

JTree · May 1, 2015

Richard, you have all our jelly. Maybe one day I'll be able to justify such an awesome tool!

bonner1040 · May 2, 2015

I cant believe you bought a Hightex.

monkeylove · May 2, 2015

JTree said:
Watching that just about completely demoralized my efforts to learn this craft. Also makes me wonder why a spliced eye costs 15 bucks. I know the machine is expensive, but dang......like next to no labor cost in that process unless there is more to the setup than I imagine.

JTree, it's not the labor cost your buying it's the liability insurance cost your paying for.

JTree · May 2, 2015

Point taken.

bonner1040 · May 2, 2015

And the setup, and the research and development, and the scrap/waste, and the employee training, and their perks/holiday pay/benefits. Maintenance, programming and more.