Documenting my hand-sewn eye process

Unfortunately again, the splicing series he’s promoting won’t teach you how to splice HTP. Usually the cover is very tight, but I was able use Marlow’s Megabraid splice on a 10mm line of HTP, that had a looser cover.
 
Bob Bob said:
I was hopeful when I read this (on page 9, post #172). So I contacted Treestuff about sewing one tight eye on an unused 150' hank of 11mm HTP Addiction that I just obtained from a fellow Treebuzzer. The rope is still in the orginial plastic bag from TreeStuff.

I received the following back by email:

"Unfortunately, we can not splice any used ropes for liability purposes. We do sell a series on splicing if you are interested in that. I have included a link below.

Thank you,

Matthew Murga
Treestuff.com"
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It looks that Matthew Murga did not get your point here.. You asked for sewing an eye and he understood splicing...
 
It doesn't seem to matter what he understood. It was a cookie cutter response. I'm sure he's a busy man. far too busy to read everything and type thoughtful responses. It was also not a used rope. And not one that I would be able to splice. Brocky's like a superhero or something.
 
Stupidhero is probably more like it to most. The moral of the story might be, if you don’t do your own splicing, is to always get a spliced or sewn eye when ordering rope, and decide later if you want to keep it.
 
theatertech87 said:
Stumbled across this while trying to research some more about strengths of stitches. Thought maybe it might mean something to someone

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjAAegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw3SWyAh5xIQGHKnNnUl937m
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Ohhhhhhhhhhhh! Now i get it!!! Silly Jimmy.. I was going at it with my Mathmatical Physics instead of Basic Calculus.. Dohh!
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Bob Bob said:
I was hopeful when I read this (on page 9, post #172). So I contacted Treestuff about sewing one tight eye on an unused 150' hank of 11mm HTP Addiction that I just obtained from a fellow Treebuzzer. The rope is still in the orginial plastic bag from TreeStuff.

I received the following back by email:

"Unfortunately, we can not splice any used ropes for liability purposes. We do sell a series on splicing if you are interested in that. I have included a link below.

Thank you,

Matthew Murga
Treestuff.com"
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This is like picking up a prescription drug at the pharmacy, you go home and realize they gave you the wrong prescription, they won't take it back, at least not to be restocked on the shelf. Or a new car losing value the moment it leaves the dealer.

It's funny though, one of the original reasons I started making my own sewn eyes was because I wanted to put an eye on "experienced rope". It's great that you were able to find someone to do the machine sewn eye!
-AJ
 
Recently had some sewing experiments tested trying to improve on the last batch, which all broke where the stitching started. All in this batch had the tails pull through the stitches, without much, if any increase in break strength. The first cord was an attempt at less stitches than before. The other three are a combination of buries and stitches.
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The first batch used the core from 8mm Beeline, this group had Yale’s 6mm single braid Vectrus for a core. Wondering if the slightly different constructions might account for the slipping.
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FreeFallin said:
Nope, everyone seems to be alive and kicking.
:bananahappy:
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Currently flying my TreeMotion with hand-built/assembled hybrid bridge cordage and the second bridge of the same custom cordage is hand sewn to the lower D’s. Inspected before every climb, rock solid for awhile now. As i’ve mentioned in the past the cover is stripped from 10mm Sterling HTP, core stripped from a braided Dyneema core sailing line, the Sterling HTP cover is superb, very wear resistant as it protects the 9500 lb rated core.
-AJ
 
SomethingWitty said:
Huh. Just checking. I remember that someone was supposed to die from sewing their own eyes.


I like the cover swapping nonsense. It opens up a lot of options.
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Brocky said:
I’m sure it is going to happen any day now, we were practically promised it would.
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Alright.... Alright..... Now i feel like i have to go knock on wood..

So what were you proposing Brock? The parallel core vs the braided being the reason for the tails slipping through? I would assume this may be one of, if not, the actual reason, why we see certain vendors posting cordages as "not sewable" ... (KM3?? Wasn't it Wesspur that shows it as not Sewable?)

You know what i find wild.. & you would kinda think goes against alot of what know about sharp edges & rope.. is.. PMI's termination option using metal crimp clamps.. Idk if that approach is supposed to be non life support only or something, but I just found it interesting.
 
Hahaha..
JeffGu said:
When I see that, I just order from another vendor.

I've got hanks of KM3 Max, KM3, HTP and various other kernmantles with sewn eyes. I think I'm probably going to die at any moment.
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Right right.. i do the same here..
I'm just wondering if what brocky's experiencing is their reason for shying away from sewing them. What's odd is I'm pretty sure I've seen sewn breaking strengths from the manufacturer on some of these cordages specific vendors won't sew..
 
Joeybagodonuts said:
Hahaha..


Right right.. i do the same here..
I'm just wondering if what brocky's experiencing is their reason for shying away from sewing them. What's odd is I'm pretty sure I've seen sewn breaking strengths from the manufacturer on some of these cordages specific vendors won't sew..
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Oh btw.. just seen this while verifying my last post & figured most interested in this type of thread would also want to hear this.

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Stop using Braided Safety Blue® with slaice®, Arbor Elite with slaice® and pottsblitz with slaice®, CEclimb 12 with slaice®! TEUFELBERGER was informed
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Take a look at the date range! Wtf? That includes stuff from eons ago..

Within this recall, they say cut termination & use knot. Followed by "You are not allowed to make any other termination!". If you can't go from there & use a regular splice or sewn end it really makes me wonder if there's more concern to be had.. If the problem spot is gone, what's the problem with re-terminating unless there's a problem with the cordage itself???

I don't want to be alarmist, it's just how my mind works.. especially considering i just did a hand splice on this cordage a 2 weeks ago & it felt like it buried way to easy (my method may have helped though. Still, it left me second guessing as to why it was that easy).
 
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