Compact Bulldog Bone

Can someone put me right here: I tried the Bone on Poison Ivy Calamine (11.7 mm, double braid - kernmantel, polyester). Y'all know I haven't used a lot of ropes.

This one worked really good with the bone (I think even better than cougar orange) on 3/4 bollard - for reasons yet unknown to me - it felt thicker and harder than the cougar orange.

Is the above rope very similar to lots of other Yale 11.7's?

I'd consider this rope for the future.
 
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When new, the different flavors of Yale 11.7mm ropes seem slightly different to each other, but nothing that can't be explained by minor surface differences from the different dyes used, and by variances from one batch to another. I have several color schemes. Some were short hanks that I made into lanyards, but were all long enough to climb on a little bit from a beam in the garage or a low limb. They didn't act any different after going up and down them a few times. Those minor differences pretty much disappear quickly. When you compare them one after another, on the same day, you realize that these little differences seem bigger if you compared them say, a month apart.

One that seems quite a bit different is the Hedera version, a green variant with red tracers that was rebranded with Stein's name on it for awhile. They also make a 16-strand version of this one... same colors... that is a different rope altogether. There is something about the dyes used for this one that make it feel quite a bit different from the others, but again, after climbing on it a bit, those differences seem to be nothing more than a minor effect of different dyes used. It isn't any stiffer or less stretchy or anything, it just has a little different feel to it until a friction hitch or mechanical device rub on it under weight.

My personal conclusion came to this: The Yale 11.7mm ropes sometimes feel a little different fresh out of the bag, but once you climb on it these differences disappear very quickly. If you try them side by side, I don't think anyone could tell any difference in a double-blind test. If it's any help, I think you can just pick the color that appeals to you the most.. color coordinate your climbing systems so you don't grab the wrong one in a panic situation, if you climb on two systems a lot... and do this knowing that there isn't going to be any significant difference from one Yale 11.7 rope to another one.
 
Thanks fellas - some great info there.

It was my bosses climbing line that I was trying the Bone on. Now that he's seen what the Bone (and srt!) can do - it's only a matter of time before I'll ask Gordon for another purchase for him.
 
I want to add a small swivel on my bone. Before I ruin something I'd better ask: is it just to remove the two cotter pins (marked below) and then just punch the pins out where the cutters where?
I tried it yesterday but the pins/links or bollards was really tight. Didn't move any....
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The snap chain link will release when you remove the one to the right. You'll need to undo the second and third one from the right as well in order to remove the stainless chain link.
 
Understood Tomi. The cotter pins was easy enough to remove but the links/pins was stuck. I gave the left one a gentle whack with a hammer but no movement. Should I just give a try again but harder?
 
They should just fall out unless something is new with the latest version. The pins are welded to one side plate and loose on the other. The plate should fall out if you remove both cotter pins on stainless.
 
So the pins are welded on the back side? That's explains it. All three cotter pins it is then. I just removed the two marked in the picture.
Thanks again Tomi. You probably saved my bone from destruction.... :-)
 
So after banging on to the boss about the bulldog for almost every second day, and him seeing how much more efficient my limited climbing skills have become (and how much fun I'm having); he wants one. He's a very good faller more than anything else and his climbing knowledge is dated: he's been on spiderjack for a year (blakes/tautline before that) - doesn't climb often (doesn't often get the chance), but wants to do more. I've told him srt is going to change him, I've told him the bulldog bone is the best current set up to use for it. Surveyor states with the Bulldog Bone - over 250 lbs is not recommended. My boss will weigh around 240/5 lbs in total (with climb gear, saddle, 362, ect) - should the Bulldog Bone still be adequate for his weight? - Anyone around that weight on the bone?

I love the bulldog bone. It works amazing for me. I don't wanna waste my boss's time, money and energy though without just double checking about the weight thing.

He'd probably be on 3/4" bollard on 11.7 Poison Ivy Calamine (Yale). I've climbed up and down 20' in this configuration (and even tied his big heavy climb bag to myself - to try and simulate his weight) - no problems whatsoever.

At some point after work we'll find time, and I'll let him test out my Bulldog for a bit.
 
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So I guess the boss is cutting down on the budget (expenses) - so despite me raving about it every time I climb - he won't be splashing out soon. Despite this - I'd just like to say that every day I have on it - I love it a little more. So quick and easy on and off (just do it without thinking now). Beginning to 'feather' it down on the rope intuitively (don't even have to look - I know where it is). It's beautiful. Thank you Gordon.
 
Well, I am just ecstatic! Gordon, I've been using Yale Prism w/ the BDB, religiously, and thought I had the best combo, until I bought some tachyon last week, as well as, the Bola on some KMIII, now I think I've gone to the Big Tree in the Sky, the setup just can't get any better! Everything feels so balanced and responsive. The Tachyon has that extra firm core, so that's probably got something to do w/it. Just wish the Bola would work w/it. That's the OCD showing up again! Want everything to match! But, no sense messing with a winning combo! Looks like the RR is gonna hang in the gear bag for a while! Thanks guys for the input on all the rope trials!


Dave6390 in WI
 
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Well, I am just ecstatic! Gordon, I've been using Yale Prism w/ the BDB, religiously, and thought I had the best combo, until I bought some tachyon last week, as well as, the Bola on some KMIII, now I think I've gone to the Big Tree in the Sky, the setup just can't get any better! Everything feels so balanced and responsive. The Tachyon has that extra firm core, so that's probably got something to do w/it. Just wish the Bola would work w/it. That's the OCD showing up again! Want everything to match! But, no sense messing with a winning combo! Looks like the RR is gonna hang in the gear bag for a while! Thanks guys for the input on all the rope trials!


Dave6390 in WI
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Dave, if it's not too much of a bother, I'd be interested in hearing your opinion in a "compare and contrast" kind of way with regard to your use of the Rope Runner versus the Compact Bulldog Bone. I apologize if you've already covered this earlier in the thread, but it's a really long thread.

Saying that "the Rope Runner is gonna hang in the gear bag for awhile" implies that you have a strong preference for the Bulldog Bone over the Rope Runner at the moment.

I'd just like to hear any comments you might have on why you think that is the case. Thanks in advance for your time and attention.

Tim
 
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