Compact Bulldog Bone

monkeylove · Mar 24, 2015

Tico said:
I'm pretty new to all this so it could be that every now and then I would make some mistake...

Better to make those mistakes in here or and the ground.

Huskyman · Mar 24, 2015

surveyor said:
Tico has the third batch Bone with the 1-3/8" pivot length. I am surprised that the cougar does not grip at all for him, but with over 200 lbs, the larger dia. rope would seem to be required based on Tico's experience. I would recommend trying the Orange Tachyon.

Is orange the preferred color on Tachyon? Would the Bone perform worse with the green Tachyon? I've read the specs but I can't find any difference between the two. Could the dye really be an issue?

surveyor · Mar 24, 2015

My orange Tachyon always seemed thicker to me than the green, but it may be because it is old and swollen, and the green is relatively new.
I also suspect there are slight differences from one run batch to the other.

Treetopflyer · Mar 24, 2015

Orange is all I've ran ,I've never tried another color of tachyon . That said its been the all around best performing line I've ran the bone on.

Tico · Mar 24, 2015

surveyor said:
My orange Tachyon always seemed thicker to me than the green, but it may be because it is old and swollen, and the green is relatively new.
I also suspect there are slight differences from one run batch to the other.

Hi surveyor, as the Tachyon should be slightly thinner compared to the Cougar blue I can assume it would just be similar if not worse on the bone I have...I read that many are very enthusiastic about the Tachyon which I never tried but maybe the bone I have really requires a bigger diameter rope...I really don't mind sticking in the 1/2" range ropes at all...

mikbro81 · Mar 24, 2015

I'm running the bone on the pink, white, and gray tachyon and I love it. I also don't weigh anything, so my opinion might not count.

Treetopflyer · Mar 24, 2015

Tico the construction of the line has as much to do with performance as much as diameter ..maybe more.?
A firm line that stays round is best I think

Treetopflyer · Mar 24, 2015

https://www.treestuff.com/store/catalog.asp?category_id=143&item=495#
I like this line with the bone on it because its firm stays round and has a static type feel with energy absorbing capability as well..

John_KAYS · Mar 24, 2015

Tico said:
Hi surveyor, as the Tachyon should be slightly thinner compared to the Cougar blue I can assume it would just be similar if not worse on the bone I have...I read that many are very enthusiastic about the Tachyon which I never tried but maybe the bone I have really requires a bigger diameter rope...I really don't mind sticking in the 1/2" range ropes at all...

I think I have a BDB from the same batch as you Tico. I love the Orange Tachyon with 5/8th bollard and my 19o pounds of muscle. Works great. I haven't used the other colors of Tachyon so I can't say if one is better than the other... but orange is good!
http://www.treebuzz.com/forum/media/aluminum-alloy-7075.15/

Tuebor · Mar 24, 2015

Orange is the only color Tachy I've used, but it rocks with the middle bollard in the super middleweight class.

Tico · Mar 24, 2015

Huskyman said:
Is orange the preferred color on Tachyon? Would the Bone perform worse with the green Tachyon? I've read the specs but I can't find any difference between the two. Could the dye really be an issue?

It's not much the grip but the release which is very jerky...it grabs OK but descending with it gets really risky!!! The comparison with the 13mm is very evident...nice and smooth vs dropping and catching!!! Anyway I don't have the Cougar anymore...I exchange it with Vortex...let's cross fingers...

macswan · Mar 25, 2015

John_KAYS said:
my 19o pounds of muscle. /

So 190 of its muscle, but whats the total? it been a long winter

MikePowers321 · Mar 25, 2015

In fact, 99% of that muscle is actually space...who woulda thunk?

Flex Abednego · Mar 25, 2015

Has anyone had the pin in the lower link bend out? I have to use channel locks to close mine.

Flex Abednego · Mar 25, 2015

Anyone run both Vortex and Tachyon? If so how much do you weigh, & what's your preference?

gmcttr · Mar 25, 2015

Flex Abednego said:
Has anyone had the pin in the lower link bend out? I have to use channel locks to close mine.

I have not. Was it like this new or did it change after climbing on it?

TreeLogic · Mar 25, 2015

Flex Abednego said:
Anyone run both Vortex and Tachyon? If so how much do you weigh, & what's your preference?

Yes. Weigh 190. Tachyon.

mikbro81 · Mar 25, 2015

I run tachyon. Never tried vortex. Once I tried tachyon I switched from safety blue and never looked back. I weigh 130. I'm thinking about switching to the smallest bollard on the bone. Any thoughts?

treegongfu · Mar 26, 2015

I always found tachyon sluggish with the bdb Both on ascent and descent and I weigh 200lbs.
At 130 I imagine the smaller bollard would be fine but that may be influenced by your build date.

I like the way you can basically free fall with the cougar, not only is it a blast but it has practical uses too, and it doesn't preclude just releasing it slightly for a slow Descent.

Flex Abednego · Mar 26, 2015

gmcttr said:
I have not. Was it like this new or did it change after climbing on it?

no, it was easy open and close first few climbs. only thing i can think of is that i must have loaded it without closing it and it bent the pin. i climbed on it the day before yesterday closing it with channel locks but decided to put it aside the last 2 days.