Cheapest midline attachable rope grab?

TimBr said:
Hey, @JeffGu! I was wondering if you've heard of this device from Trango? It might be meant as a replacement for the Cinch? I'd love to hear your impressions about the device. They have a video on this web page I'm about to post. I'll try to post links to both, if the moderators don't mind.

trango.com

Vergo & React Screwlock

The Vergo emphasizes ergonomics and human-device interaction to deliver exceptionally safe performance. Clear physical and visual indicators reaffirm correct usage, and the geometry reduces the likelihood of misuse. There is never a need to override the device, even when feeding slack for a...
trango.com trango.com


I'm hoping this product is actually available in the marketplace, and not something that never saw the light of day. Thanks.

Tim

Edit: It appears that it is possible to buy this device directly from the manufacturer, right from the website to which I posted a link! Just in case it does not have good distribution among the retailers.

2nd Edit: Here a link to a Bing results page for sellers of the device.

trango vergo belay device - Search Shopping

www.bing.com www.bing.com
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I was looking into it as a lanyard (and other things) device, I went to a couple of stores, and they didn't have it or they only had it online. One store had a cinch, but they wouldn't let me buy it... Just lookilng at the Vergo, it seems that the rope comes out the wrong side of the device and the handle is also wrong, at least when using it as directed. That's why I'd like to get one in hand to see how it works in non-recommended orientations.
 
The product was pulled almost immediately after release, then re-released... or at least announced... for a long time it hasn't been any easier to find than the Cinch. Glad to hear it finally seems to have actually been made available. It appears to have undergone more changes. I'll have to look into it more. Right now, I've got to go get some Siberian Elm limbs off of a garage. Going to be another hot, humid day. I'll check out the videos tonight.
 
climbstihl said:
I was looking into it as a lanyard (and other things) device, I went to a couple of stores, and they didn't have it or they only had it online. One store had a cinch, but they wouldn't let me buy it... Just lookilng at the Vergo, it seems that the rope comes out the wrong side of the device and the handle is also wrong, at least when using it as directed. That's why I'd like to get one in hand to see how it works in non-recommended orientations.
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I have the Cinch and really like it, though now I use it on a basal anchor. Did you watch the videos that I posted for the product? My gut feeling is that these folks have put a whole lot of thought into the design of this product, and it should probably be used in the manner that is recommended by the manufacturer before other methods are tried out. The videos make it look like a really sweetly designed device.

My off the cuff, unasked for advice is to just buy the device sight unseen, and then play with it low and slow until you are used to how it functions. I don't think you will regret the purchase.

Tim
 
TimBr said:
I have the Cinch and really like it, though now I use it on a basal anchor. Did you watch the videos that I posted for the product? My gut feeling is that these folks have put a whole lot of thought into the design of this product, and it should probably be used in the manner that is recommended by the manufacturer before other methods are tried out. The videos make it look like a really sweetly designed device.

My off the cuff, unasked for advice is to just buy the device sight unseen, and then play with it low and slow until you are used to how it functions. I don't think you will regret the purchase.

Tim
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I don't want to buy it unless I know I like it, which I'm very unsure about. I'd buy the Cinch in a heartbeat though.
 
Woodwork said:
@swingdude - Sorry to interrupt with a noob question, but what is a "HRC"?
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Quite alright. HRC is a very heat resistant prussic cordage developed by good ole New England ropes now owned by the giant we call Tuefelberger. It is 8mm and a very popular climbing prussic. I prefer it on a lanyard as I like fatter cordage like epicor 9.3 or 10mm AP.
Here is a link.

www.teufelberger.com

HRC (Therma Shield Prusik)

HRC (Therma Shield Prusik) from TEUFELBERGER is a highly heat resistant hitch cord consisting of Vectran®-Technora®/Nomex®.
www.teufelberger.com www.teufelberger.com
 
SomethingWitty said:
Tim, there are three options floating around that I know about at this point for self rigging and releasing.
Setting a pulley saver and lowering it on a bight, the heavy hook with a stiff loop system that releases when the system is slacked, and just carrying a bunch of speed line slings and lowering small pieces on a bight on your tail. You pull the rope through to release on that one.
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A double-whip tackle is not what you're climbing line is for, IMO. Especially if you're working solo, you should have a means of getting to the ground, toot-sweet, that doesn't rely on getting your tail free from anything.

Bag your climbing line, and don't take too much (couple rope lenghts to choose from).

You can rig heavy stuff on a DWT on rigging rope.

Self-lowering isn't limited to little limbs.
 
I purchased the tibloc for 25 a week ago and got to use it over the weekend. I would not use it for ascent but for this thread it’s super easy and quick to put on with a petzl roll clip for a 3:1. As mentioned though for cheapest a prusik. Btw the tibloc did not pick my 24 strand
 
southsoundtree said:
A double-whip tackle is not what you're climbing line is for, IMO. Especially if you're working solo, you should have a means of getting to the ground, toot-sweet, that doesn't rely on getting your tail free from anything.

Bag your climbing line, and don't take too much (couple rope lenghts to choose from).

You can rig heavy stuff on a DWT on rigging rope.

Self-lowering isn't limited to little limbs.
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It's also not limited to dedicated gear and heavy premeditation. Carrying a dyneema loop runner with a carabiner on it is always worth doing.
The purpose is generally production when you thought you would cut and toss but the positioning is awkward or the pieces rather unruly or big.
On SRT you can always reach the tangle, but I honestly don't remember the last time I had one of any difficulty.
 
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