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^ right on! it sucks to have to buy a new one ($$wise) but peace of mind and lifesafety is priceless.
I have a policy of NEVER climbing on anyones equipment except my own, unless it is a dire immediate life threatening emergency. I know the history of my equipment, i know how i care for and treat my equipment, I cannot say the same about other peoples gear.
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Hahahahahahahah! I trust my friends and thier gear, almost 20 years under my belt, alot on others gear.I definitly don't beat my gear with a hammer though.SRT what happened to your pardigm shift of going ultralight and climbing on Black Widow, did you scare yourself? Bodean, good call on that retirement, I have a box of em' if you want one, I use an ATC.
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Its standard policy and written procedural practice among rope access technicians, SAR, and other rope users to not use equipment/ropes/gears that are not yours (personal gear) or that are the usage and history of are unknown. I do not know the history or upkeep of my friends gear, nor the history or upkeep of the climbers gear at work, therefor i will not use them. Its a commendable practice and one that garners much respect amongst experienced rope access technicians. Sad to say, that care of equipment and practice of not using gear that is''nt yours is seriously lacking in treeclimbing. Some of you climb on ropes i would'nt even walk my dog with.
as for going ultralight, yes, i did a bunch of tests in a controlled environment, using a dynmanic rope belayed backup and a BlackWidow mainline. Out of the ten users that climbed it 5 times each, using a standard SPT (single point tie in) and a blakes hitch, only one felt comfortable at any sort of height. Most if the volunteers complained that the thin rope was uncomfortable on the hands, and there was a pyschological barrier of climbing on such a line (even though its rated for over 18,000 MBS). When they all switched to regular 1/2" climbing line, all the participants were happily climbing to the roof of the gym.
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I am getting a lot of flack for hitting this ring with a hammer. Knowing the results of my five rings "tested" with the two hammers; if we could turn back the clock, would any of you volunteer to hang your life on the ring in question?
I began this post out of a concern for safety.
A metalurgist is in possession of the ring and will conduct a "scientific analysis". I don't have anything to prove... I will be happy (yet puzzled) if the ring comes back with no defects detected.
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and we thank you!! i have no idea why some people are giving you flak....the hammer test PERFECTLY replicates the daily smashing and dinging a FS ring endures, along with our carabiners. If some people cannot see that or observe what is happening with their gear when they work, oh well. Let em experience first hand the wonders of a ring failure or carabiner failure. No skin off my back...
anyways, back to broken aluminum rings.
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^ right on! it sucks to have to buy a new one ($$wise) but peace of mind and lifesafety is priceless.
I have a policy of NEVER climbing on anyones equipment except my own, unless it is a dire immediate life threatening emergency. I know the history of my equipment, i know how i care for and treat my equipment, I cannot say the same about other peoples gear.
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Hahahahahahahah! I trust my friends and thier gear, almost 20 years under my belt, alot on others gear.I definitly don't beat my gear with a hammer though.SRT what happened to your pardigm shift of going ultralight and climbing on Black Widow, did you scare yourself? Bodean, good call on that retirement, I have a box of em' if you want one, I use an ATC.
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Its standard policy and written procedural practice among rope access technicians, SAR, and other rope users to not use equipment/ropes/gears that are not yours (personal gear) or that are the usage and history of are unknown. I do not know the history or upkeep of my friends gear, nor the history or upkeep of the climbers gear at work, therefor i will not use them. Its a commendable practice and one that garners much respect amongst experienced rope access technicians. Sad to say, that care of equipment and practice of not using gear that is''nt yours is seriously lacking in treeclimbing. Some of you climb on ropes i would'nt even walk my dog with.
as for going ultralight, yes, i did a bunch of tests in a controlled environment, using a dynmanic rope belayed backup and a BlackWidow mainline. Out of the ten users that climbed it 5 times each, using a standard SPT (single point tie in) and a blakes hitch, only one felt comfortable at any sort of height. Most if the volunteers complained that the thin rope was uncomfortable on the hands, and there was a pyschological barrier of climbing on such a line (even though its rated for over 18,000 MBS). When they all switched to regular 1/2" climbing line, all the participants were happily climbing to the roof of the gym.
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I am getting a lot of flack for hitting this ring with a hammer. Knowing the results of my five rings "tested" with the two hammers; if we could turn back the clock, would any of you volunteer to hang your life on the ring in question?
I began this post out of a concern for safety.
A metalurgist is in possession of the ring and will conduct a "scientific analysis". I don't have anything to prove... I will be happy (yet puzzled) if the ring comes back with no defects detected.
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and we thank you!! i have no idea why some people are giving you flak....the hammer test PERFECTLY replicates the daily smashing and dinging a FS ring endures, along with our carabiners. If some people cannot see that or observe what is happening with their gear when they work, oh well. Let em experience first hand the wonders of a ring failure or carabiner failure. No skin off my back...
anyways, back to broken aluminum rings.
no you cant use my gear (dont loan my gear, dont loan my tools)
