Breakaway lanyard

Doug, you may wish to edit the last line of your post.

The use of snap-shackles is rare in the tree world, but they are only used when there is primary climbing system in place that is NOT connected via a quick release system.

Snap-shackles can be dangerous. I agree.

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nick
 
Just an idea so I'll throw it out here.

Could you have a length of throw line or something similiar run through one D ring to the other D ring and have the snaps of your lanyard connected to this piece of cord. If it breaks then the whole lanyard goes with the tree. This would eliminate the whipping action of the snap around the tree.

WP
 
When the rare moment comes up that i need a breakaway, i tie small loops of throwline around my d-ring then clip my lanyard into the loops (that way your lanyard is still adjustable)
 
Mike

I agree with this, but, I guess there was some discussion on the biners, clips, etc swinging around and hitting you if it did break. Instead of having 1 piece of throwline holding a single side of the lanyard, why not have a single piece holding both sides to eliminate this potential problem?

WP
 
I imagine some people will grown to see this thread/post again, however I read through the posts and didn't see a real solid conclusive solution (not to negate any one persons idea)...I'm still very interested in a solution to the (relatively rare) but potential problem of being attached to a falling piece of tree. And yes I understand that I would be working off a very secure TIP without setting myself up for some monstrous potential swing. Just a side note: if the branch broke and you remained attached you may still be in for a unpleasant swing, just now joined to a large piece of wood or of course on your way to the ground. My idea is zip ties...but I'm not that satisfied with my own idea. But, because I don't want to start any arguments aurrummm throat clear...heated discussions feel free to PM me if you think you have a great idea? Or if the is another thread discussing this issue somewhere else please direct me if you could...

Thanks,
Ken
 
My solution has always been a running 020/200 in my right hand to cut my nyebuck lanyard with if that leader failed under me while catching a head.

Never had to cut yet, but knowing I could made the one handed ride more enjoyable from a Murphy's law perspective.

That's why primary TIP's make me braver than otherwise!

Sometimes you just have to cut first and ask questions later!

jomoco
 
Ya Tom, and I was thinking you could tape several together, depending on breaking strength, on my D-ring and then leave it hanging there (as long as it's out of the way enough) and then only clip into it when needed.

Thanks for the reply guy's
Ken
 
The zip tie might work nicely, though ambient temperature would likely play a role in breaking strength. Might be good to test at various temps...
 
Although I can even picture Tom's point about the "snap" coming around and whacking ya in the face/ teeth...outch, hopefully it would miss you or loose the velocity by the time it got to you...I'm guessing there might be a difference between a steel core and rope lanyard...maybe one of the creative inventors I've noticed on the Buzz will create something?..
 
Ride it out with a length of rope the distance of the fall. Run it thru a rack type device.

Problem solved!

Breakaway Lanyard is now the Runaway Lanyard and should make most pretty comfortable if they can figure out the load and friction required.

Your welcome.
Cheers
 
I have a question on the matter. Would 3 tie in points be needed when cutting? If your main line were to be damaged you'd only be tied in by The breakaway.
 
I've suggested it before and have been politely ignored...but what about incorporating a breakaway chainsaw lanyard for these conditions. Those are rated to break at 200 lb. No guessing. I think you need something that breaks automatically, and nor something you initiate. I don't believe most of us have the cat like reflexes to manually release something before we got slammed or crushed with a failing load.
My second favourite idea is the electrical tie.
I won't get all pouty and girly if one of you can point out why a chainsaw breakaway lanyard a bad idea. Because that is what I will use if I think I need to ever do this. So...talk me out of it and maybe save my life if you know why this won't work.
 
Frax,

If you don't mind company, I'll join you in a girly pout! To me, 200# is way more than I EVER want to jerk me! I'd rather have a lower break-away for chainsaws and lanyards.

The first break-away saw lanyard that I ever read about was in Don Blair's first, and only, Sierra-Moreno Mercantile catalog. He found brass snaps that were rated for somewhere around 90# or so. The lanyard was stronger but the harness attachment snap would break and go away.
 
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