Bored backcuts/ anti-barberchair/ anti-fiber pull Thread

Yes. I always figured as much, but wanted to avoid assumptions until fully considered.


This was a green alder branch today that I knew would be okay if it split, so I just back cut it to experiment.


Sorry for the sideways pic. This limb leaned very horizontally out of the forest, into the residents' backyard
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chipper1 said:
Oh yes, the farmers bore cut aka the sloping bore cut lol. I've practiced them on the ground, never really needed to use one when climbing, which is a good thing.
Nice job getting those all topped out. Was there a reason you couldn't have dropped that tree right into the field.
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Curious...Why is it a good thing that you haven't needed one while climbing?





That backstrap-release is a good safety measure for gusty conditions, independent of any split risk.
 
southsoundtree said:
Curious...Why is it a good thing that you haven't needed one while climbing?





That backstrap-release is a good safety measure for gusty conditions, independent of any split risk.
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Because I haven't been in a tree in a couple yrs ;). When I was doing a little climbing it was primarily to reduce canopy width or raise a couple branches to clear a target, then fall them.
I do need a good climber that I can contract some work to in the GR Michigan area, I pass up quite a bit because it doesn't work for me.
 
chipper1 said:
Because I haven't been in a tree in a couple yrs ;). When I was doing a little climbing it was primarily to reduce canopy width or raise a couple branches to clear a target, then fall them.
I do need a good climber that I can contract some work to in the GR Michigan area, I pass up quite a bit because it doesn't work for me.
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Where’s woodpecker?
 
davidwyby said:
Where’s woodpecker?
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He's about an 1:15 away, hasn't really worked out to have his help(if that's what you mean), I've contacted him a few times. Be nice to have someone who climbs or with a 72' lift to contract.
I actually have a few I'd like some help with real soon, I'll manage if I don't, but it takes a lot more effort.
 
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Step cut on a smaller red oak.
Have to watch back leaners as they can chair also. This one you can clearly see I had pulled it a little much and it started to chair. It's not shown in the video, but I had already stood it up about 8' at the tips. There were multiple branches that were limb locked, the good thing was they weren't over the house, but they didn't break out anyway.
 
Evo said:
Stay in your wheel house will ya? Alders will pop open this time of year. Even after limbing and blowing a top. I’ve seen spars pop 18”, and while eating lunch the pile of bucked rounds will start self splitting.
Haven’t seen it be a problem but it’s sure uncomfortable to see the stem your on pop and open up on you.
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So you think hiking a chain up that tree and tightening it with wedges was a good idea?

I appreciate the info on alder fibers, but it's just not that hard... it can't be...
 
Evo said:
I certainly don’t think it was a BAD idea.
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On that little stem? With no top? If you don't want to call it bad, how about impractical, or inefficient, or sub-optimal?


. or how about just stupid... when 2 or 3 wraps and a timber hitch using any old piece of short line could been just as effective.

I think that the benefits of doubling, tripling, or many x-ing a half inch line is highly under-utilized in this biz.. ie. if you're worried about the pull lines strength, just double it up with a basket hitch and leave bull rope at the shop.
 
The tree definitely came down shorter and MORE IMPORTANTLY.... much softer. When you drop dead ash like that with standard falling cuts, they explode into a million pieces... makes it much harder to pick each one and get them into the chipper.. Most of the smaller limbs sayed intact after impact..

 

this oner started to BC because of how much force I had on the pull line. I was counting on the pretension alone to get the tree moving without moving the puill vehicle. COunting on a the length of the pull line and the dynamic stretch... nmotice that just a little hesitation in the back cut gave the trunk fibers enough time to split. As soon as I heared it pop, instincts kicked in and it was a full throttle race to get the hinge to trip before the back side lifted..
 
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