Ash tree removal

You are friggin awsome! Some awsome Ideas I wouldn't have thought of. I am also impressed with the fact you got Butch to write more than 1 line. With all his years, he's a man of few words! Great vids, thanks for posting.

Steve
 
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Sweet trick with the rope retrieval, but why was the pulley necessary? Couldn't a simple large eyed bowline done the same? Just curious...

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I wouldn't be a fan of rope running through rope. A biner would be fine. But, I like the idea of a pulley for the least amount of friction as possible.
 
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I'm thankful for wide open spaces to work in here in the United States of America.

Dang that would get old driving in lag bolts and cutting slabs like that.
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But, you do it well.
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Hopefully you get paid well!

We're just spoiled out over here. At least I am.
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X2!! Nicely done.
 
I'm not gonna be running to the hardware store anytime soon . You put some good thought into it , you have a good plan and obviously it worked. I'm all up for dog and pony shows , but I don't see why you couldn't have just butt tied a few logs , the wood and tree appeared sound . I will agree if you are gonna cut out pancake size pieces and want to use wedges and jacks and take three days on a removal ,and look cool, thats the way to do it .
 
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I'm not gonna be running to the hardware store anytime soon . You put some good thought into it , you have a good plan and obviously it worked. I'm all up for dog and pony shows , but I don't see why you couldn't have just butt tied a few logs , the wood and tree appeared sound . I will agree if you are gonna cut out pancake size pieces and want to use wedges and jacks and take three days on a removal ,and look cool, thats the way to do it .

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Riggs,

I dont know what a cloth-eared gimp is or looks like, but it seems like a fitting way to describe someone of your character and personality.



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I'm not gonna be running to the hardware store anytime soon . You put some good thought into it , you have a good plan and obviously it worked. I'm all up for dog and pony shows , but I don't see why you couldn't have just butt tied a few logs , the wood and tree appeared sound . I will agree if you are gonna cut out pancake size pieces and want to use wedges and jacks and take three days on a removal ,and look cool, thats the way to do it .

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The reason you don’t see is because you weren’t there. Riggs, do you think I give a $hit about looking cool? I got nothing to prove man. Hell, I don’t even like climbing. Do you think I’d be up there any longer than need be if there was an easier way? Any thing bigger than the pancakes, as you call them, would have been near impossible for the guys to set down at the base of the tree without damaging stuff and losing money on the job. Also, to butt-tie sections from that trunk would have meant allowing them to run for which there just wasn’t room and the trunk was leaning backwards (which I’ve already explained....only a total moron would have taken such a risk, all thing considered.

Yeah it did take three days, but the flow of work was constant for that duration i.e. there were no real pauses with guys waiting on one another, I cut the pieces to a size that were practically manageable on the floor, it takes as long as it takes, we finished within the estimated time and got paid, no damage, thank you very much.

The forums are all free for the members to post and share ideas etc, some folk contribute more than others. For the best part, I really don’t have lots to say so I do drop in the odd video to pay my way so to speak, they are what they are, without agenda, a few tips here and there but mostly light entertainment. Take it or leave it. Looking cool, get a grip man.
 
You asked ,I gave you my honest response. What do you want me to say " great job " well of course it was a great job you finished it . You and Laz threw it at me and if you wanted a back rub you should have told me . If I was on the ground and saw two jacks in the tree I would have asked "what are you doing ? changing a tire!"( believe me I would have ) I agree Morons take risks , but so do professionals. I didn't think I was being rude when I answered you but , I guess you have thin skin. I don't believe it would be impossible to set a bigger piece than what you cut at the base of the tree . I'll tell you what you want to hear . Great job Reg ,awesome dude. Other than the lags , it was a great job . I can see other applications but , the wedge the two jacks and the piece of firewood , well that's not my cup of tea . So lighten up fella , I got one helluva grip.
 
how would you describe your charactors and personalities Grover? I watched the videos , and I believe from what I saw that it was not impossible to butt tie the logs . Some people just are not comfortable rigging trunk sections . Which was plainly obvious in the video . What are we in grade school ? don't hurt no ones feelings , everyone makes the team .
 
I thought it was great! We are not all "He men" like you Riggs. I geuss smarter not harder really chaps your hide when it takes a little longer. Its attitudes like that that forced me to go into bizz for myself.
Oh ya and the comment about changing a tire would certainly not be recieved well on one of my jobs.
 
Is that right Jesse , Why would I want to work for you ? How was that smarter ? Since you are on your little rant . from your response , I 'm sure there are alot more rerason than that on why you went into bizz by your self . So answer the question , how was it smarter ?
 
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I got one helluva grip.

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Yeah and your stuck fast in that grip, the grip of your own unexamined dogmas.

At the start of the 'extreme rigging' thread - Reg was totally unconvinced by Laz's idea of using lags, in fact what he did in his video is not what Laz described, it was an adaptation of the original idea.

Something you find difficulty in comprehending is that there are people who like to push the boundaries of accepted practice. They see a different way from the crowd and are willing to try something new, in the case of Reg's technique, it worked.




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Is that right Jesse , Why would I want to work for you ? How was that smarter ? Since you are on your little rant . from your response , I 'm sure there are alot more rerason than that on why you went into bizz by your self . So answer the question , how was it smarter ?

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Dude...why wouldn't you want to work for me is a better question. I am freaking awesome.



That is the main reason why I went into bizz for myself, so I could learn more things and not be stagnant and closed minded. Sorry if you don't believe me.

I thought it was smarter because the ground crew didn't have to deal with huge logs. I have worked many tight spots where "Pancake" logs were the best option.


I am not hiring at the moment..sorry.
 
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You asked ,I gave you my honest response. What do you want me to say " great job " well of course it was a great job you finished it . You and Laz threw it at me and if you wanted a back rub you should have told me . If I was on the ground and saw two jacks in the tree I would have asked "what are you doing ? changing a tire!"( believe me I would have ) I agree Morons take risks , but so do professionals. I didn't think I was being rude when I answered you but , I guess you have thin skin. I don't believe it would be impossible to set a bigger piece than what you cut at the base of the tree . I'll tell you what you want to hear . Great job Reg ,awesome dude. Other than the lags , it was a great job . I can see other applications but , the wedge the two jacks and the piece of firewood , well that's not my cup of tea . So lighten up fella , I got one helluva grip.

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Thin skin, are you serious? I’m married for heaven sake!

When I replied to you in the ERigging thread it was because Laz had already posted which I felt left me no choice. I told him about the job but I didn’t know he was going to post. I opened by saying it <u>had been a year Glen</u> , despite the optimism I’d expressed towards the end of the thread, which was an admission in itself. I didn’t throw anything at you.

It wouldn’t have been impossible to set down a bigger piece but it would have been impractical. To keep on insisting otherwise, even though you weren’t there is almost like suggesting I’m being dishonest about it, I don’t appreciate that at all. The pancakes/firewood or whatever mocking label you want to put on them were actually just that….firewood, sold, about 12in thick. It took 3 guys to pick up each piece and load it. I had the most powerful and fastest cutting saw on the site, up the tree, so I cut them not just to size, but to that I knew was safe to rig <u>with the lags</u> and manoeuvre and then load, on with the next one.

I took your first post as a cheap shot. Another one is that I’m apparently afraid of butt-tieing….utter nonsense based on nothing. When exactly did we work together anyway?

Forward to 0.28 on this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq1p4xc1GtM

Now that’s as short as I think practical to cut a section of that diameter without losing the leverage to pull it over and retain the hinge. Any longer or more run and it would have walloped the fence just below the bushes. The Ash in the video being discussed was probably twice that width and leaning backwards. If you’d dropped a line from the top it would have landed next door, so even you locked up the whole rigging set up to minimize the drop it would have been hanging over next door, and without a winch almost impossible pull around let alone sit it down anywhere. And after that, there just wouldn’t have been the falling distance to practically Rig and fold a section a viable proportion and not hit the roof. And that’s the way it was. If you still choose not to believe me for whatever reason then that’s up to you? Reg.
 
"I thought it was smarter because the ground crew didn't have to deal with huge logs."

What they don't have chainsaws ? If they worked like a crew , I'm sure they could handle bigger chunks .

"I have worked many tight spots where "Pancake" logs were the best option."

did you need a wedge and two jacks ? didn't think so .

So you were just jumping in there to here yourself talk , great post meant nothing. Now was that smart?
 
I believe you Reg . I'm a believer .

Just wondering how you knew what was safe to rig with the lags ?

I'm a believer because I saw it , but I'm not buying it for the same reason .
 
did you need a wedge and two jacks ? didn't think so .

So you were just jumping in there to here yourself talk , great post meant nothing. Now was that smart?


I wish I would have had them. I would have used them.

Although I do love to hear myself talk, I jumped in after reading your ridiculous post. I geuss it kind of moved me...and not just my bowels.

Good day sir!
 
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