Ash tree removal

Reg

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This was a relatively short but chunky tree in a situation where we absolutely had to lower every thing.

The top was time consuming but the real challenge came in the trunk which was leaning in the opposite direction to where we needed to place the sections. For this reason we used alternative methods. Whilst I’m not promoting or encouraging the methods, what I will say that I had tested the equipment involved and all things considered, was satisfied that it was indeed the safest method for dealing with the circumstances on this particular occasion.

It’ll take about a half hour to watch all three videos. Thanks

Part1

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ei65VYKNAM

Part 2

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3Cvx89eRF9w

Part 3

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Cf5ixX-4N0s
 
Tap and go lagging - nice one Reg
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The occasional sighs of strain and discomfort tell how awkward it must have been. And I love that wide angle lens!

Great work. Of course.
 
Great idea cutting a natural crotch to rope off, but I think when I try it I'll place the crotch to the side being pulled to so any chance of the rope rolling around to the other side, slipping off, and running on the lanyard and/or climber will be eliminated. Cool trick, for sure!

How many lag bolts do you usually like to use, total? Do the groundies remove them and send them back up, straightaways - rotating two sets? Or do you have a BUNCH of them and just collect them later?

And what's up with the bulky tools (blockdriver?) for those little chunks? I woulda simply pushed them off. It seems like the trade-off between packing that around and just pushing ain't worth it, eh?

Sweet trick with the rope retrieval, but why was the pulley necessary? Couldn't a simple large eyed bowline done the same? Just curious...
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Hi Reg, New to this site. Love the use of the screw in (EYES) you used in the removal, is it a new idea? or your own? also like the Floating pulley for line retreival will try that one.
 
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Great idea cutting a natural crotch to rope off, but I think when I try it I'll place the crotch to the side being pulled to so any chance of the rope rolling around to the other side, slipping off, and running on the lanyard and/or climber will be eliminated. Cool trick, for sure!

How many lag bolts do you usually like to use, total? Do the groundies remove them and send them back up, straightaways - rotating two sets? Or do you have a BUNCH of them and just collect them later?

And what's up with the bulky tools (blockdriver?) for those little chunks? I woulda simply pushed them off. It seems like the trade-off between packing that around and just pushing ain't worth it, eh?

Sweet trick with the rope retrieval, but why was the pulley necessary? Couldn't a simple large eyed bowline done the same? Just curious...
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Nice one Reg - on the removal and vid, you've also made mb type more than a single sentence, thats gotta be a first.
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WoodlandTC - I was there for 3 days although I couldn't do anything until after 10am when Steve and co turned up so they were short days, small sections.

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Great idea cutting a natural crotch to rope off, but I think when I try it I'll place the crotch to the side being pulled to so any chance of the rope rolling around to the other side, slipping off, and running on the lanyard and/or climber will be eliminated. Cool trick, for sure!

[/ QUOTE ] Excuse me if I'm being stupid Butch but Ive just had a drink staight after work so I'm not all there right now. the way I'm reading what you're suggesting is exactly what I thought I'd done i.e. the portowrap laghooks and crotch were all to my right to ensure the chunks to fall that way....what an I missing?

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How many lag bolts do you usually like to use, total? Do the groundies remove them and send them back up, straightaways - rotating two sets? Or do you have a BUNCH of them and just collect them later?

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Ive never had to use them before. Those sections couldn't be afforded any drop because of the stuff underneath and the so the crotch idea was all I could come up with.

I’ve picked up some heavy stuff with single lags just to see how they'd hold but wasn't 100% sure on how smoothly the chunks were going to fold over the edge at first but as it was they went fine. I put four in anyway and doubled the slings over to make sure, as I knew if one were to come out it would have gone straight through the roof underneath.

I had plenty of spare lags up there but they come out much easier than they go in so I had them back in a minute or two and besides, I decided to carry on with the same ones just to see how they stood up to the work....one was a little bent but other than that they were in tact.

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And what's up with the bulky tools (blockdriver?) for those little chunks? I woulda simply pushed them off. It seems like the trade-off between packing that around and just pushing ain't worth it, eh?

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Well, its probably hard to tell on the video but I had to come in from both sides with the 088/36in bar so they were still 4 ft across and over 200kg. I wasn't really stood on that stump, more like hanging under it so leverage, or lack of it would have been an extra problem that I could do without, so why not add 15 times my own strength to the situation!

The Blockdriver just sits on top till I need it so its not in the way really. I borrowed that 88 for the day and even though the chain was new, on its side it cuts just aweful....great and true heading downwards but put it on its side and it starts a new cut every time you try to move it round, so you end up with a terrible surface finish, ridges every where. so those sections needed to be raised and kept that way on their journey otherwise they wouldn't have gone anywhere, or worse, they might have swiveled in the wrong direction. I didn't like the thought of being ripped down the spar so I used everything I had to make things favorable.

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Sweet trick with the rope retrieval, but why was the pulley necessary? Couldn't a simple large eyed bowline done the same? Just curious...

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That sling wasn't quite long enough so the guys were actually pulling against it to get the branches clear from the building etc, so in this instance a bowline would have just bit into the lowering rope and made things harder.
 
Being a part time woodturner, I'm used to fastening large spinning blocks of wood to a faceplate by the use of screws or bolts. Experience has shown me that they pull out a lot easier in endwood than in sidewood. Something to consider, when using lag bolts.
 
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Yes,everything was to the right but it looked to me like the load was being pulled to the left.

What am I missing?
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Must be just how it appears on the film. The only slight drag was from the lowering line but that was to the right. There was no other pull involved. I did think beforehand that I might have to insert another bolt over to the right somewhere, clip a Krab to it and then use that as an aditional rope guide..... but I soon realised throughout watching the first one that it and the rest would be ok for this particular tree.
 
What bar was on the 88? I have a Woodsman 41" on mine (my "short" bar) and don't have issues with the bar cutting crooked on horizonal cuts. I also don't have trouble on a 72" bar although I have to have a kerf to put the bar in so it doesn't sag and throw the chain.

You can run curves if you twist the powerhead when you apply pressure to the tail handle, otherwise mine has been straight as an arrow.

Downloading the vids :)
 
I'm thankful for wide open spaces to work in here in the United States of America.

Dang that would get old driving in lag bolts and cutting slabs like that.
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But, you do it well.
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Hopefully you get paid well!

We're just spoiled out over here. At least I am.
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What bar was on the 88? I have a Woodsman 41" on mine (my "short" bar) and don't have issues with the bar cutting crooked on horizonal cuts. I also don't have trouble on a 72" bar although I have to have a kerf to put the bar in so it doesn't sag and throw the chain.

You can run curves if you twist the powerhead when you apply pressure to the tail handle, otherwise mine has been straight as an arrow.

Downloading the vids :)

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Only a 36 on this one. Ive used plenty of big saws/bars over the years but never had one cut this badly....and its not far off new. I didn't take the time to really look over it after but at a glance everything appeared as it should.
 

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