Are you afraid to die?

Peter Hitchens, brother of Christopher makes some interesting points in support of the concept of God, the emphasis placed more on the importance of a society which is based on a Christian ethos. I agree with him. Short video - 8 mins.

 
The problem comes to is our modern mindset. Most people believe today that you can believe what you want to believe and that's okay for you. Everything is subjective. But none of us actually believe that. 1+1=2, no one debates that. There has to be one objective truth.

God has manifested Himself through creation.....all that we see and feel and observe. God has given us His Word and told us our only hope in life. His name is Jesus. He suffered on the cross for our sin and bore that wrath of God we deserve.


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Steve Connally said:
I have debated on writing more on this thread and I suppose maybe I have some life experience that could explain how I feel about death.

First of all I am afraid it will hurt really badly. Having said that, I'm not afraid to die. I am a firefighter. I have been for the majority of my working life. I accept the risks of my profession and just don't think about it. If I dwell on the possibilities I will be unable to do my job. I am at peace with the possibility of death due to occupational circumstances. I feel experienced enough and knowledgeable enough to keep my self out of situations where its likely. Unfortunately things happen that we cant foresee or mitigate and a death occurs. I'm ok with that. I swore to give my life for those I protect the day I accepted the job offer. It's what I do and people depend on me for that.

Doing tree work is similar. I don't take stupid risks and take my job very seriously. If some tragic accident happens then it happens. I do my absolute best to mitigate any change of injury and death but I am not all knowing and all seeing. If it happens, most likely I did my very best to keep it from happening.

I willingly ride a motorcycle and do so with my 6 year old son. I accept the risk. I think about it more when he is with me than when I'm alone due to the fact that I'm putting him at risk by allowing him to ride with me. I am old enough to make my own decisions but decisions like this for him are not taken lightly.

The point is, I think about death often. I just can't dwell on it. My life is risky. Death is always there and I believe it will come when it comes. I just have to try to not go asking for it. I am not ready to die. Im a 45 year old dad of a 6 year old. I wannna stick around and help him through life. I also want to see if I did a good job. I'm not close with my own family but my relationship with my son is stronger than mine ever was with my own parents. I'd really like to see it through.

When my wife and son died, I died. It was a cold dark time in my life. I was dead inside. I wished every day that I had died instead of her. I felt she would do so much of a better job being a widowed parent and keeping life together than I could. I dreaded picking my child up from daycare and spending time with him. I dreaded meal time with just he an I. I dreaded everything about it. I just wanted to get the day over so I could go to sleep and forget about my hell for a few hours. Then the alarm went off and hell began again. I was dead inside. I had nothing to give. I was empty, barren, lost, lonely, and alone. I felt escape in work and work alone. Her death was the most significant death I have ever experienced. It shook the very bedrock of the foundation of my life. It was me that would die first, not her, or so I thought.

I guess the point is I have learned to accept death as part of everyday life. It's everywhere. I don't ponder the afterlife or whatever you choose to believe in. I do have beliefs but I really don't consider them past my thoughts of my wife and son and what has become of their spirit/energy. I hope more than believe honestly. Death doesn't scare me. It doesn't scare me even more after my life experiences with my personal life as well as the probably thousands of deaths I've witnessed in my 22 years of an inner city paramedic firefighter.

My ultimate wish about the actual process of my own death is to make it sudden, peaceful, and painless. Kinda like when you leave home for the first time. Don't drag it out, just do it before you have second thoughts or your mind fills with regrets, don't look back.

Make it as trauma free for those I love and let them find peace in it. Don't let them see it or read about the events. Allow my son to see my as a good man and a hero. Peace and tranquility........that's how I hope it feels.
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Your surely a super hero to your son.
You made me cry, not out of sadness, but the love we have for those that seemingly need what we have available to offer.

Love it. I have found my self crying at least once or twice a month. Can't help it. Not out of sadness. Happens out of love and the beauty of the nature I'm in, like when I drive next to the lake and a great song comes on usually. Yes just like a little girl. Few months ago it happened so hard and I looked over next to me and there was a flock of geese flying right next to me at the same speed and height, fucking shed tears so hard, laughing at the same time.
 
Stuart French said:
The problem comes to is our modern mindset. Most people believe today that you can believe what you want to believe and that's okay for you. Everything is subjective. But none of us actually believe that. 1+1=2, no one debates that. There has to be one objective truth.

God has manifested Himself through creation.....all that we see and feel and observe. God has given us His Word and told us our only hope in life. His name is Jesus. He suffered on the cross for our sin and bore that wrath of God we deserve.


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Jesus is the son of the galactic emporer (Jehovah) come to rob the earth of it's soul force. His plan has been working out okay But there are other players involved. The tides are changing, slowly. Stay tuned
 
Stuart, I appreciate and respect your feelings and belief. Please don't allow this conversation to become a religious debate. It will loose all of its openness and productivity and result in an angry game of teasing and defensiveness. Keep it about death brother. No disrespect!

When Johnny, who I like but we are very different people, talked about death before, I tried to talk to him about it. He was able to preach to me but never answered any questions and avoided the discussion all together. I believe the response was "I love you brother". Not likely to get too deep from him, although his points have merit, they just tend to have the same preachy pseudo religious do as I say tone that I personally cant grasp. No disrespect to him either. Just disappointed I couldn't explore his mind on the subject. Have him talk with me not just to me.

Frash, cry. Its your emotional vent. It feels so good after. I wish I could. During my emotional rebuilding I would try to listen to music just to make me cry and blow off that steam. Couldn't do it. Just cried for about 30 seconds and stopped. Kinda tough when the arms you cry into are gone. I tear up, just can't cry which is sad in itself.

Here I am off subject as I just zinged Stuart for. Shame on me. No matter what you believe spiritually, death can't be that bad. The process of it can be awful. When its over, its over. I wish all of you live a happy full loving life. I hope you all die in your sleep loved and at peace. I hope all your loved ones can find peace and acceptance quickly. I hope you are remembered fondly with a funny story or a quick joke. Most of all I hope your children remember the twinkle in your eye, the rough strength of your hands, and the safety of your arms. Enjoy your holiday brothers.
 
Death, for those who are in Christ, is joyful because we will spend eternity with our Savior. Christ is better and greater than anything else this world.
"No matter what you believe spiritually, death can't be that bad. The process of it can be awful. When it's over, it's over." This sounds very hopeless to me. What if I said that it doesn't matter what you believe and that there is only one objective standard of truth and that God is not only a God of love but a God of wrath? That for those who die apart from Jesus will die and suffer God's hatred and wrath towards sin....that is a very scary reality.
The scriptures are clear that Jesus is our only hope, not what we do to earn salvation, but what God has done to save us.


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Levi.CO said:
Did you join this forum just to post on this specific thread and get to preachin?

Booo, boo this man!
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Levi that not very rasta like of you:rolleyes: .. Whereas the positivity I've come to know from you .. Are you pulling a frashdog , hitting the bottle a little too hard tonight lol..:birras:Im saving it for tomorrow myslef
 
Stuart French said:
Death, for those who are in Christ, is joyful because we will spend eternity with our Savior. Christ is better and greater than anything else this world.
"No matter what you believe spiritually, death can't be that bad. The process of it can be awful. When it's over, it's over." This sounds very hopeless to me. What if I said that it doesn't matter what you believe and that there is only one objective standard of truth and that God is not only a God of love but a God of wrath? That for those who die apart from Jesus will die and suffer God's hatred and wrath towards sin....that is a very scary reality.
The scriptures are clear that Jesus is our only hope, not what we do to earn salvation, but what God has done to save us.


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This sounds even more hopeless to me, with complete respect my friend. If God is loving, no guilty punishment would ever be bestowed upon not one of his children. There is no scary reality. Giving God the same attributes of man would be terrifying indeed, if it were real. Yet, it stands true that Love sees only innocence. This is our natural state of being. This is what your savior found within. The door is open to anyone who knocks with sincerity.

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What you just said is completely unbiblical. We are, apart from Christ, sinful beyond measure and that sin deserves punishment from a just and righteous God. Love has to have a reason to love. The mercy and grace of God is great because of our sin.


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Treetopflyer said:
Levi that not very rasta like of you:rolleyes: .. Whereas the positivity I've come to know from you .. Are you pulling a frashdog , hitting the bottle a little too hard tonight lol..:birras:Im saving it for tomorrow myslef
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I'm all for these type of discussions on the Buzz, amongst people who also contribute in other parts. Joining just to preach is kinda lame in my opinion. Much respect to you Aaron! I'm sober as a judge!
 
Stuart French said:
What you just said is completely unbiblical. We are, apart from Christ, sinful beyond measure and that sin deserves punishment from a just and righteous God. Love has to have a reason to love. The mercy and grace of God is great because of our sin.


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The term is new to me but this seems like a clear cut case of trolling
 
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