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yeah man...170 bucks is a lot.
I got a pair of mountain hardware 4 way stretch pants with zippered side vents, zip off scree-cuffs ( which work awesomely to keep chips outta yer boots!) at an outlet store up here for 39 bucks!!
and they are tough, tough performers.
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I've got the same pants and love them. REI makes some awesome climbing pants that Ive been beating to death daily for two years and they are still in great shape. No holes, no broken stitches, no problems and they are 130$. I wear the same pair everyday all week and they stand strong. I only own 4 pairs of work pants (one of them rain specific) and these bad boys keep on trucking
I'll buy a pair of AW stretch techs for a compairson.