arborist ethics

[guymayor]

Dan and Eric, please use more sense and manners and less judgment.

rich, thanks for the tip re footlocking and rescue. I'll recheck on the other requirements.

drouin, there are more consultants per square mile in California than anywhere on earth, and many of them are very good. But maybe your diploma will help. I hope you find success and enjoyment there.

"The main difference between the 2 is one paid $150 and the other didn't."

Nathan, the main difference is: one proved capability, and one did not. I have never heard a valid reason for a working arborist who knows enough to pass not taking the test. But my ears are open.

 

[Mangoes]

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I was talking about you Gigi but I did not say you did not care about trees. I was responding to your lack of interest in becoming a CA. Like Tom I know more than few people who know more than enough to pass the CA but don't take the test.

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Excuse me? I must have over read..........

 

[Mangoes]

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Gigi I did not say you did not care about trees.

I stand by my statement. The CA is such a basic test of tree knowledge that every tree care business owner should be one.

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Here it is just before......that's twice.

 

[Mangoes]

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UrbanLegand, no, I am not studing to become an ISA Certified Arborist. I run the buisness like a buisness, I hire people to make the company whole.

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It's always sad when tree company owners don't know or care to know about trees and only see trees as a means to dollars.

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I'm pretty sure I see the word CARE there.......maybe I need specks. Was a long day.....14 hours......could be my mistake.........

 

[Colin]

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Dan and Eric, please use more sense and manners and less judgment.

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I only just finished reading about Freedom of Speech on another thread and can (embarrassingly as an American) say touche to the observers of what appears a recurring problem. As with those who challenge religion (and its ways) it certainly opens doors for communication and understanding, my understanding of forums like this was to invite dialogue and in the context of tree people I do believe the above mentioned have behaved quite admirably considering their dedication to the industry.

They feel that consumers would be better served by a business where all encumbered were arborists to some degree and in a personal hierarchy of preference I certainly prefer to deal with a small businesses where the person who answers the phone knows what is going on.

Its not the world according to Guymayor nor is it for him to judge. As long as theres been no violation of decency allow them their opinions, isnt that what this board is all about? Peace to all but certainly have your say, even the Pope does that.

 

[guymayor]

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As long as theres been no violation of decency allow them their opinions

[/ QUOTE ]well AA I agree with Tom that some of that was out of line, but that's just my opinion, to which I hope I'm allowed. And Mangoes did a fine job on catching the doublespeak.

If their opinion is right, will all our wives have to get certified before they can answer the phone? That may not go over so well...and my kids would have a heck of a time on the cabling domain; I know I did.

O and the SMA in Hollywood will be a good experience for urban foresters. Not so relevant for arborists though; SMA did not do much cross-pollination of information at last year's meeting.

 

[Colin]

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If their opinion is right, will all our wives have to get certified before they can answer the phone? That may not go over so well...and my kids would have a heck of a time on the cabling domain; I know I did.

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Seems it's inbred the ole you're either with us or against us attitude in the USA.

It wouldn't hurt for them to get certified would it?

It wouldn't be a disadvantage would it?

It would be preferable for many who rang up, wouldn't it?

I have worked in a few different roles and one was answering the phone for a verticle blind plastic componentry manf. I went out of my way to understand the injection moulding process, the part techs, the raw product materials, the UV ratings etc so when some-one called I had the answers not just took a message for some-one else.

Just today I had to ring for builders who know about leaking showers. The first 2 companies I rang I got bimbo's who wanted my details, some-one gonna call back bla bla bla ... I pissed them off and the third person i rang was a builder who specializes in bathrooms and subbies for some of the other mobs. Had a chat about the problem, asked questions, and now we know what is wrong and why and he'll come price it ... he's also a tiler so can do that. Questions asked were ... is tiling direct onto gyprock walls allowed? Some companies say no tile removal sealants guaranteed for 10 years ... will that work? And so on.

That's the difference.

So no right or wrong, just PREFERABLE!