Anything wrong with owning more than one rope??

Re: Anything wrong with owning more than one rope?

I got 4
A little Fly rope around forty feet for Crab Apples
Two Velocity's both 150 and one is hot and one is cool
And hot off the press I just got my 150 Tachyon Green and I am going to climb on it tomorrow
Ye ha
Rev
 
Re: Anything wrong with owning more than one rope?

Thanks alot guys!! Can always learn new stuff on here. Great site!!!

And Rev, let us know how that Tachyon works out. Thats all I've ever used is New England, so it would be nice to stay within that greoup if Tachyon turns out nice. Thanks again guys!!
 
Re: Anything wrong with owning more than one rope?

Guys I went back and added an amendment on to my statement. be gentle.
 
Re: Anything wrong with owning more than one rope?

i like having a virgin; in the bag, rope on hand. So, if there are any questions about a rope of mine or buddy's; it can immediately be replaced with no chances taken. No guess work, no excuses, no waiting. As time has gone on; that is used less and less; and now (due to some personnel vigilance) area stores now carry said lines, so no waiting for shipping for any of the area brotherhood.

Also, i like variable rope lengths, strengths and elasticities. Lengths is just about not having to break out and store a 160' to do a job an 80 will do. But, different strengths and elasticities is about having enough strength; but not tooo much strength as to be inelastic to the purpose. So, works hand in hand with elasticity rating.

Too many times i think we look just at the 'macho' bullish strwenght of hold/tensile strength of a line. But; this can place more load on supports; and not allow as much pre-tensioning of a line to ballast a load force. So, i try to also look at the 'feminine'/non-bullish side of non-release/hold that has forgiveness; or the elasticity.

So, rope choice is important to me, to match it to the job, and so therefore; a variety of ropes for different purposes, as well as backups. i generally downgrade a rope from lifeline, to rigging, to utility pulling then tie down, dragging etc. i think that as a lifeline i use up some of the lower level elasticity; and it should have more left for bigger loads of this essential property. Plus, this just emphasizes to me over and over; about really putting personnel safety first; by always being on the newest stick of 1/2" line.
 
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I have 2 120'blue streak 1 with an eye and one with out I switch back and forth I think I get more life out of them this way. I also have a 85' saftey blue for small trees and take downs. I like it the best its real soft and light and works good if Im tyed in with the tale of the rope or a prusic.
 
Re: Anything wrong with owning more than one rope?

Thanks guys. Thinking of what to buy, I think a rope no longer than 150' is needed in my area. I'm thinking either Blue Streak, because I would like to have a 1/2' rope, since those are nice sometimes for certain jobs (I was going to buy Blue Streak oringally before the Fly, but talked to Jeremy the time I was buying one and changed my mind.) Posion Ivy, Tachyon (Still waiting on a price check from Sherrill), or Velocity.

Also, is there any advantage to an eye splice over a knot. (bowlie, anchor, or any other know to attach it to your biner.) or does the eye splice win out every time. If not, I would like to save that $30 for a splice and put it towards another thing. Thanks for all the help everyone!
 
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Also, is there any advantage to an eye splice over a knot. (bowlie, anchor, or any other know to attach it to your biner.) or does the eye splice win out every time. If not, I would like to save that $30 for a splice and put it towards another thing. Thanks for all the help everyone!


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Having an eye-splice makes it alot easier to re-crotch (or change a TIP). You can just unclip from the eye, pull your rope out, re-crotch, and then clip back into the eye.

With a knot, you'd either have to un-tie it each time (including pulling your rope down from the ground), or just pull the whole thing, carabiner and all, risking the chance of it getting stuck.
 
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Thanks. I figured that. I just went on Sherrill's website and compared the price of a 150' Blue Streak with an eye splice and a 150' PI with eye splice. Price difference of around $50 I think, so price may also be a factor in this. In my mind, they're all great ropes though, so whichever I pick I know I'll end up liking. Thanks
 
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Also, is there any advantage to an eye splice over a knot.

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I like the eye splice but I wear out that end of the rope faster. With my non-spliced rope I switch ends every time I climb and the rope seems to wear more evenly.
 
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Yeah, same on mine and my Dad's. We both try to switch ends every time we use it. Almost climbed today, since it was so nice, but someone busted my Mom's rear car window last night (just discovered this morning), then we had to deliver firewood, then clean the house, etc. Time just flies sometimes. Hopefully it's be better tommorrow. Thanks for the help.
 
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I was fifteen when I started competeing in the Tree Trimmers Jamboree. I might even consider it at fifty one.( proably will place the same today as I did in the beginning) So age is a matter of mind and exposure and to be willing and able.

On the rope issue personally I have long ropes for two main reasons one: The height of the trees that I deal with on the Pacific Coast start where most trees end on the Atlantic coast. ( I also recreational climb in trees that use up a lot of rope)
The second reason is because of the Mechanical advantage I like to build in to my climbing systems. You can never have to much rope.

A variety is nice to have on hand.

And remember with a climbing rope you can make some dough and then go out and buy the console. (maybe a couple)

Invest in the things that produce some return. You can't make money by working alone you must invest in your future..
 
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Yo reverend, dont waste your time trying pin me down on a statement. I explained that I looked too far into it. leave it at that. Not the first or last time someone on this site will shoot from the hip. I clarified my thoughts and then took the time to offer some advice in an attempt to make good on my original remark. Lets keep the input and advice coming for the guy and not hi-jack his post.
 
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When you're looking at choosing your long rope keep track of the weight per foot. 200 ft. of Poison Ivy is going to be pretty hefty if you want to carry it into the woods along with the rest of your gear. I'd consider a dedicated skinny enough but strong enough static for your long rope.

Considering that you're just starting to experiment with SRT I'd forget about getting a long one for now. You can do a lot with a 120 or 150. You'll know when you need a 200, you'll be standing under a big conifer saying, "Damn I need a 200 ft. rope!" Then you'll be ready grasshopper :-)

You will have many ropes, it can't be avoided :-)
-moss
 
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A basic climbing kit should have two ropes in it. One that will do 80% of your work, typically around 120' and the other rope to do the big uns. Get a second rope that will be longer than you'll need or you'll have to have THREE ropes to cover all bases.

I've lived in four cities with very different canopy heights so my two ropes would be different. On the short end, here in Dallas I would probably have 100/150' ropes. In Atlanta they would be 150/200'. Both go with me everyday.

Since I SRT now I have a 200' rope and most of it just sits in the bag so I don't need a 'short' rope.

I've really enjoyed Ranger's questions and following the responses. He is never bashful about asking a question and follows up with even more ideas.

My career was stuck on the track of being Evil Tom the hack until I started reading the original Arbor Age and Tree Care Industry magazines every month. That showed me that my ways weren't going to lead me to being a healthy old climber. With the access to the Internet and all of the folks at Treebuzz I am confident that the generations that follow will have a longer, healthier career in the trees.

Back in the days of the original ISA discussion forum a friend of mine, whose parents were arborist/forestry consultants, was active in the discussion with professionals. Isaac would hold his own 98% of the time. Every time he posted I got a chuckle since no one else knew who he was. His knowledge of tree physiology/tree mechanics and math were evident. He's now finishing up a degree as a chemist.
 
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Thanks guys. Just got an email back from Sherrill detailing the prices for Tachyon. Here it is for those who want to see it. They told me it will be in their 2008 catlog coming out around March/April.

Item Number Description Price
31979 Tachyon 11.5mm x 120'/BLUE w/Green flecks $127.00
31979S Tachyon 11.5mm x 120'/BLUE w/Green flecks $158.00
31980 Tachyon 11.5mm x 150'/BLUE w/Green flecks $155.00
31980S Tachyon 11.5mm x 150'/BLUE w/Green flecks $186.00
31981 Tachyon 11.5mm x 200'/BLUE w/Green flecks $205.00
31981S Tachyon 11.5mm x 200'/BLUE w/Green flecks $236.00
31982 Tachyon 11.5mm x 600'/BLUE w/Green flecks $584.00
31982S Tachyon 11.5mm x 600'/BLUE w/Green flecks $615.00
31983 Tachyon 11.5mm x 120'/BLUE w/Orange flecks $127.00
31983S Tachyon 11.5mm x 120'/BLUE w/Orange flecks $158.00
31984 Tachyon 11.5mm x 150'/BLUE w/Orange flecks $155.00
31984S Tachyon 11.5mm x 150'/BLUE w/Orange flecks $186.00
31985 Tachyon 11.5mm x 200'/BLUE w/Orange flecks $205.00
31985S Tachyon 11.5mm x 200'/BLUE w/Orange flecks $236.00
31986 Tachyon 11.5mm x 600'/BLUE w/Orange flecks $584.00
31986S Tachyon 11.5mm x 600'/BLUE w/Orange flecks $615.00
32122 Tachyon 11.5mm x 150'/GREEN w/blue flecks $155.00
32122SS Tachyon 11.5mm x 150'/GREEN w/blue flecks $217.00
32126 Tachyon 11.5mm x 600'/GREEN w/blue flecks $584.00
32127 Tachyon 11.5mm x 200'/GREEN w/blue flecks $205.00
32131 Tachyon 11.5mm x 120'/GREEN w/blue flecks $127.00


Thanks for the responses guys!!
 
Re: Anything wrong with owning more than one rope?

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Yo reverend, dont waste your time trying pin me down on a statement. I explained that I looked too far into it. leave it at that. Not the first or last time someone on this site will shoot from the hip. I clarified my thoughts and then took the time to offer some advice in an attempt to make good on my original remark. Lets keep the input and advice coming for the guy and not hi-jack his post.

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Not trying to pin ya down on anything just curious on your statement as I really have no idea what you said
My intent was to add to the thread not hi jack it
Rev
 
Re: Anything wrong with owning more than one rope?

Sorry to bring this topic back from the dead, but i had a few more questions on ropes. Right now, I use the Fly, which is a great rope, but right now, I'm looking for something different, but at the same time similar. I want a skinny rope. (No more than 11.7mm), a rope with good knot characteristics, and something that's "soft" or sort of soft (Like the Fly) I also want light weight. This will be a 150' line, no eye splices.
 
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