All your evil lies

[evo]

You'll never catch me speaking in absolutes.

Well?




Just poking fun.

 

[rico]

I knew someone would blame the right for leftist violence.

Matias, do you need to reconsider your preconceptions?

The shooter was a republican.

The shooter execised his right to bear arms as was given to him by god, the NRA, and republican backed/supported gun laws. The shooter chose an AR, which seems to be their weapon of choice.

The shooter allegedly attempted to assassinate the republican presidential candidate, and this candidate just happens to be a man who makes his living peddling lies and political intimidation and violence.

This alleged assassination attempt took place at a republican rally..

So much for "leftist violence" and "preconceptions"?

 

[treegongfu]

shooter was a republican.

The shooter execised his right to bear arms as was given to him by god, the NRA, and republican backed/supported gun laws.

Where did you get all of this from?

My understanding is that he currently has virtually no internet presence.

Certainly nothing that would require me to reconsider that it is leftist violence.

 

[climbhightree]

Supposedly the father was libertarian, and mother was Democrat. Yes the shooter appears to have been registered as a republican in 2020-2021, but he also donated $ to Biden's side politically

Hopefully things will be brought to the light/public, and not hidden away. Voilence in not the answer, no matter which side of the aisle one is on.

 

[treegongfu]

Thirty-seven percent of registered voters surveyed said they have a positive view of the FBI, while 35% said they have a negative view.

Somehow I don't think things will be satisfactorily brought to the light.

 

[climbhightree]

Thirty-seven percent of registered voters surveyed said they have a positive view of the FBI, while 35% said they have a negative view.

Somehow I don't think things will be satisfactorily brought to the light.

Very true. It will most likely be put with a multitude of other events that we don't know the full story of. Each side will interpret the event as they see it.

 

[rico]

Where did you get all of this from?

My understanding is that he currently has virtually no internet presence.

Certainly nothing that would require me to reconsider that it is leftist violence.

If you would have done a little homework before running your hate filled pie hole and you would have discovered that multiple outlets reported that the shooter was a registered republican in his home state of Pennsylvania.

And with a little investigation you would have discover that he was describes as a "conservative" by classmates.

 

[rico]

Thirty-seven percent of registered voters surveyed said they have a positive view of the FBI, while 35% said they have a negative view.

Somehow I don't think things will be satisfactorily brought to the light.

And Trump wants to defund the FBI and the DOJ so why should they spend a dime of tax payer dollars investigating this dog and pony show.

 

[treegongfu]

Tiresome. Rico. Can't be bothered.

 

[treegongfu]

Tom and Matias:

"He was very kind and said he would continue to call me in the days and weeks ahead," Helen Comperatore said

I imagine you two are happy now.

 

[evo]

Where did you get all of this from?

My understanding is that he currently has virtually no internet presence.

Certainly nothing that would require me to reconsider that it is leftist violence.

Yup and what does it matter?
If the dude was a democrat, and supported Biden?
If the dude was a republican and didn’t like trump?

He was either on a suicidal mission, or entirely nuts. No one thinks they can pop off a ex president/candidate and walk away.

 

[treegongfu]

I hope we all agree that the truth matters for its own sake.

Rico's personal attacks and vitriol tend to, and are probably intended to, cause a personal vested interest in a position. I try to avoid that but Rico has a lot of enthusiasm for it, has a cheering section and is good at it so it is not always easy.

I agree the attempted assassin was almost certainly mentaly unstable.

But it is more likely the anti-Trump hysteria pumped out by the Democratic party in collusion with the corporate media than Trump's "chickens coming home to roost", that caused him to focus on Trump.

Or it is a conspiracy by anti-Trump forces.

 

[rico]

I agree the attempted assassin was almost certainly mentaly unstable.

Yet you continue with your dangerous and unsubstantiated narrative...

Is the notion that an extremely troubled young man did something insane not enough for you?

 

[JCB]

Instead of starting a new thread I'll keep this here as a place saver for stuff about the J13 shooting.

Help me clairify something. I'm not a gun guy so I don't have the lingo down. Don't get bogged down on that.

There are reports of two different long guns being used in the shooting. One, an AR15-type semi-automatic. The other is an ASXR bolt action...cost around $2k

I was raised on the Zapruder film. Its easy to count frames to get a timeline for shots. Now, with all of the digital vids that were shot it should be simple to match the reports caught on cameras and compare them with factory specs.

Maybe I watch too many Law and Order/CSI shows and have unreal forensic expectations.

No, I think you're right. Just look how they pieced together clips from the Boston Bombings.

 

[Tom Dunlap]

No, I think you're right. Just look how they pieced together clips from the Boston Bombings.

Last night I saw a picture of the shooter belly crawling up the roof. Rifle was slung over his shoulder. Photographer shooting grin ground up to the roof

Much more photo evidence than Dealey Plaza

 

[Matias]

I hope we all agree that the truth matters for its own sake.

Rico's personal attacks and vitriol tend to, and are probably intended to, cause a personal vested interest in a position. I try to avoid that but Rico has a lot of enthusiasm for it, has a cheering section and is good at it so it is not always easy.

I agree the attempted assassin was almost certainly mentaly unstable.

But it is more likely the anti-Trump hysteria pumped out by the Democratic party in collusion with the corporate media than Trump's "chickens coming home to roost", that caused him to focus on Trump.

Or it is a conspiracy by anti-Trump forces.

It is a known fact that he was a registered republican. He may have been less insane than you think. Perhaps he recognized for himself the obvious threat to civil society that trump does in fact represent, and thpught that he would take the fall to preserve what is left, and get this psycho out of the picture. Do I agree with his methods? No, but I understand his desperation to not see his party overrun by the MAGA crew that do not represent the original republican ideals.

 

[treegongfu]

I'll focus on the "may" and "perhaps" of that post.

 

[Matias]

I'll focus on the "may" and "perhaps" of that post.

As well you should. None of us knows much about him, and to say that your hypotheses have any more merit than mine or anyone elses is the opposite of focusing on the "may" and "perhaps" of all this. You have no grounds for substantiating the notion that any line of reasoning is more likely. Your position is equally vitriolic, albeit in a more passive tone, like gently pouring acid into the pool instead of splashing it out of a bucket.

I believe that you are a very smart person, and that your intelligence affords you the mental fortitude to engage in the mental gymnastics required to think that you can defend such a weak position. You will almost certainly say that it is I who is engaged in such folly, and perhaps that it is I who is projecting these ideas onto you, and not the reverse.

I am not trying to convince you of anything. You are too committed to your line of thinking, like this guy...

 

[Stumpsprouts]

But it is more likely the anti-Trump hysteria pumped out by the Democratic party in collusion with the corporate media than Trump's "chickens coming home to roost", that caused him to focus on Trump.

I don’t understand. This happens every election, every candidate, every time. They say this one is evil, this one is garbage, this one is dangerous. That’s politics. And there have been assassination attempts left and right. It all just comes with the territory doesn’t it?

 

[Lignotuber]

I don’t understand. This happens every election, every candidate, every time. They say this one is evil, this one is garbage, this one is dangerous. That’s politics. And there have been assassination attempts left and right. It all just comes with the territory doesn’t it?

Yep... Two parties/gov would likely benefit from a little shake up. They're so obviously corrupted and hurtful to America. We can do better than these two...