adjustable friction savers

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I am thinking of buying an adjustable friction saver but I have a few questions. The first one is is it even worth it over a conventional friction saver. What are the pros and cons. Also, has anyone that has one had an issue with the french prussic moving on them if they are using the ring on the prussic. I dont see it moving if there is weight on it, but say you take the weight off it then back on, has it slid? Thanks
 
There are many home made variations on the theme.

If you choose the materials right you won't even need any splicing. A scaffold hitch works well but can get bulky with large diameter rope.
 
They are definitly worth it. I have never had the prussic slip on me.

And like Tom said, there are so many varaiations, it's easy to make one up yourself. The easiest way would be to take a split tail (one you tie a blakes hitch with) with one end already spliced. Take a biner and clip it to the eye. Add some prussic cord tied onto a small ring, and another biner and a micro pulley and wala, you have an adjustable friction saver.
 
I make my own and I've used a Buck with that prusik/ring thing and I trust a prusik to stay put on round rope a lot more than on that webbing.

A fixed 4' friction saver is all you need most of the time, I like mine adjustable anyway. When I'm pruning a big decurrent canopy, a really long adjustable can work wonders. By allowing you a high tie-in with the rings extended below the immediate cluster of limbs, you can work a bigger section of the tree without the friction of bending your rope around them. I think my long one is 12'.
 
An adjustable friction saver that functions as a false crotch is useful for working down some spars.

By design, if the tree splits slowly enough, as you get pulled into the splitting spar, the ring opens your friction hitch, letting slack in to the system and keeping you from getting squished.

You can lower down without a crotch, lanyard in, shake some slack toward the AFS, and the AFS should fall down the spar toward you. Adjust the prussic if you need, pull the slack in, and you are once again ready to knock a log off.
 
I like them to allow me to tie in above the crotch of a TIP. It can let me scoot my TIP a few feet. Sometimes it's the difference between a comfortable climb and a low rope angle.

love
nick
 
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Ive had the one Buckingham made for a long time and havent had an issue with the prussick slipping
 
I use a small loop runner webbing sling girth hitched to a small ring. That is prussicd to a normal cambium saver. You can get the loopie runner at any climbing store for around $10
 
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Ive had the one Buckingham made for a long time and havent had an issue with the prussick slipping

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You're right, I really should've included that mine never slipped either.

It would take a LOT of force to slip a well tied prusik and even then, you have a stopper of some sort on the adjustable end.
 
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Ive had the one Buckingham made for a long time and havent had an issue with the prussick slipping

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You're right, I really should've included that mine never slipped either.

It would take a LOT of force to slip a well tied prusik and even then, you have a stopper of some sort on the adjustable end.

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you guys using a 4coil prussic or 6?

I have had no problem with a 4 coil.
 
I use the buckingham with a homemade prussic and ring. Never slipped. Great for the many apps already cited. Specially good blocking down a spar.

Buy one or make one, up to you. You either have the time or the money.
 
Nope, 4 would work but 6 sometimes gets to tight to move easily. 5 Works well, gives a good confident holding power but also releases fairly easily.

I got this from the Adjustable friction saver that Sherrill Sells.

Here is a picture off their website. The tree wraps on top, two on bottom. A lot like the schwabish (sp)

I use a 5 wrap because its a loop, if it was an eye to eye i would use a distel.
 

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I REALLY WANT ONE TWO. I HAVE 36 IN SAVER AND THE PRUSWICK. GET WHAT YOU WANT, MONEY ISN'T AN OPTION TO ME WHEN IT'S WHAT I WANT AND TO FEEL SECURE, BUT I DO PLAN ON GETTING A SPLICE KIT AND LEARNING HOW TO MAKE THINGS I WANT MYSELF. BUT UNTIL YOU NO THAT YOU ARE CAPABLE, JUST BUY IT!
 
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