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Kickstand could be an inline inverted V (i.e. ^) that swings down and locks via spring cam or hard lock. That gives you three points of contact. ^ would be inline with the wheel and touch the ground on each side laterally, resting a foot in front or behind the point of wheel ground contact. This of course only works well with a locking wheel.
 
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Tom Dunlap said:
I googled 'pack wheel' and got lots of inspirations. There are commercially made ones with power.
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Yes, I did not come up with this idea. I saw a guy using one on a hike in the Cascades but he told me what it cost and I thought of my old mountain bike I quit using years ago. Why pay hundreds for something I could cobble together myself with some pleasant tinkering?
 
Mike Islander said:
Kickstand could be an inline inverted V (i.e. ^) that swings down and locks via spring cam or hard lock. That gives you three points of contact. ^ would be inline with the wheel and touch the ground on each side laterally, resting a foot in front or behind the point of wheel ground contact. This of course only works well with a locking wheel.
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What I got in the habit of doing, since I hadn't snapped to this kickstand idea back then, whas to lock the brake handle and lean the handlebars around the tree I was going to climb, or a nearby one, and run a bungee around the tree to hold it there. But a proper kickstand of some kind would be a vast improvement, and allow to park anywhere remotely level. I am going to take Tom's suggestion and start a separate thread on all this.

EDIT: Follow this link to a new thread dealing with the Pack Wheel projects. NO MORE POSTING HERE! Let this thread get back On Topic. Tom Dunlap

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DIY Pack Wheel for heavy gear

We were discussing these things over in rec climbing in a thread about climbing without a lanyard to save gear weight, and Tom suggested a separate thread about it since they seem very useful. Several brands of these so-called pack wheels are available for hiking with heavy gear loads, but none...
www.treebuzz.com
 
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Burrapeg, look up Christini 2wd motorcycle - drive shaft and 90 gear might be lighter and cleaner; chuck directly onto the down shaft :) Matter of fact, he started on mountain bikes before trying a dirt bike. Maybe 90 drill head?
 
Bart_ said:
Burrapeg, look up Christini 2wd motorcycle - drive shaft and 90 gear might be lighter and cleaner; chuck directly onto the down shaft :) Matter of fact, he started on mountain bikes before trying a dirt bike. Maybe 90 drill head?
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Yeah, something like that might work fine, if not too expensive to come up with. My main criteria with doing any of this is to not have to actually buy anything as far as possible, but just work with what can be scrounged or salvaged. I will keep a watch on the local recycle yards for any small 90 degree gearing. Sounds promising.
 
Would knot that ruin a perfect running record?
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Duplicity and Dimensions of Freedom to me.
2is1 & 1isNone /Fail Safe
Possible limiters on 2 of 3 Dimensions. 1 against gravity, 1 against sway byproduct or shared V etc..
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Rope is king in these primal lessons pretty Neanderthal minimals living on nylon highway;
think 2 should be minimum, and am thinking evolved lanyard to: adjustable Prussic lanyard 15' or so.,
Sometimes good for snatching rig lines a bit out of reach; prefer weight of snap over light carabiner.
 
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A long, lightweight lanyard is an incredibly useful tool. Far more appropriate than using the tail end of your climbing line, IMHO. Weight and complexity will be so similar between using the tail of your rope or a lanyard that it is not a realistic consideration when judged against safety and versatility.
 
Oh this is where the one wheel cart thread started!






I think it’s kinda stupid not to have a laynard at least available for use. I regularly use my tail over a second line.

There is so much that can happen with a bight of rope below you, and ALWAYS have a second means of attachment! Always. Yes that can be your tail and yes many times that can be the solution, but rarely is it without complication.

When I use my tail I will frequently go without using my laynard but it’s always on me, because of work positioning! I can’t see this being any different in a rec climb.
 
* A point not hit, not even by self; is 1 rope/no lanyard; in context of surprise rescue shituation. *
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Also, one of best things i ever did, was forcing self to commit to a good habit of bringing up loopie and carabiner setups, to have ready as a standard, not an extra item to be passed up. Having them ready to play with, preset into positions, use as rope guides, slide to new position use as foot step, later slid on rail to hand hold, then to hold drink, slide to next position to rig this limb out now etc. expanded self-education ENORMOUSLY by having such a basic UNIVERSAL grab, connection and rope guide tool right with me at all times .
For the gunfighter to practice always, have as part of extension of self and thru hard, fast and precise well practiced/oiled orchestration (the more i practice, the luckier i get).
There was simply no looking back to how i worked before.
 
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