13 Things Your Arborist Will Not Tell You

Anyone seen this before?

1. Routinely pruning your trees every three to five years is not necessary, but it is a good idea to prune a tree with dead wood — especially when the dead branches are more than two inches in diameter.

2. If you see mushrooms or other fungi growing on your tree, or if a big limb breaks off during a storm, have me out for a tree inspection before it’s too late. Those can both be signs of a bigger problem.

3. When you get the estimate for the work and you think we’re gouging you, remember this: A three-man crew probably has more than $200,000 in equipment on your property, each guy is probably making less than $20 an hour, and we pay 33 percent in worker compensation, one of the highest rates of any industry. We probably aren’t making a big profit.

4. If you get a high price in May to take a tree down and the job isn’t time-sensitive, ask, “What would the winter price be?” That’s a ghost time for us, especially between Thanksgiving and Christmas, so we’re more likely to cut you a break.

5. Ask your “tree expert” if he or she is certified. Ideally, you want someone who’s a member of the American Society of Consulting Arborists, the International Society of Arboriculture, the Tree Care Industry Association, or your local/state arborists’ association.

6. Trees advertised as fast-growing typically are weak-wooded and decay-prone, and they often have limbs that break off easily in wind and ice.

7. If someone offers to “top” your tree to make it safer, kick him off your property. Topping was accepted 45 years ago, but science has since shown that’s the worst thing you can do to a tree. Another bad sign: someone who wants to sell you fertilizer without testing your soil first.

8. Never hire an arborist who uses any kind of climbing spikes, unless he’s taking the tree down. Every time he takes a step, he’s making another wound in the tree and creating a decay pocket.

9. Always get a second opinion if someone tells you a healthy-looking tree needs to come down, especially if he wants to charge several thousand dollars.

10. Be wary of people who knock on your door and say they want to trim your tree. Good arborists don’t need to canvas neighborhoods looking for customers.

11. Here’s one thing we hate: when we make a tree really beautiful and you comment on what a good job we did cleaning up. That’s like telling the barber how well he cleaned the hair up off the floor.

12. If you pile mulch up against the trunk of the tree (we call that a mulch volcano), the moisture can’t escape, and the trunk and root can rot more easily. Make sure there’s a mulch-free doughnut shape around the base.

13. I once hung a swing for a client from a branch 35 feet off the ground. And I’ve rescued a few cats too.
 
I wouldnt call it "what your arborist will not tell you" but I think this list would be more of a "13 things you should ask your arborist" or to flip it, "13 things to remember to tell your customer"

But I do like it! Where did you see this? I have never seen it before.
 
Yeah, Another instance of Readers digest condensing an entire discipline of knowledge and work down into one page.

Given the caliber of container trees planted, and the substandard planting practices on most sites, regularly scheduled pruning doses to correct defects and encourage proper growth, are the only hope many urban trees have of growing into maturity without collapsing under their own mass.

The whole "What your Arborist won't tell you" concept stinks in my opinion. It implies that we've got something to hide. Their sources were apparently three ASCA people and one "Master Arborist" whatever that might be. Readers Digest apparently couldn't be troubled to reach out to ISA, ASCA or TCIA to get industry standard information.

Overall, I'd give the article a c+. Now people can have properly mulched trees with big wood, poorly attached, because they were too smart to fall into the trap of pruning cycles. ugh.
 
C+ would be generous.

many years ago I was taught to write in gender neutral language. That is really easy to do without sounding awkward or forced.

By reading the list it would seem that no woman work in arborculture, and we all know this isn't true.
 
"the mulch is more of a problem becasue it blocks air.. "gas exchange", than because it hold moisture. "

Thats not really accurate. If you think about the size of the particles and the spaces between them, there is a ton of air space. It holds moisture, that's what its for.
 
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the mulch is more of a problem becasue it blocks air.. "gas exchange", than because it hold moisture.

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So...it's the blocking of air that creates the rot at the base of the tree?

Grade change over the root zone can create a Gas exchange problem...true that.
 
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"the mulch is more of a problem becasue it blocks air.. "gas exchange", than because it hold moisture. "

Thats not really accurate. If you think about the size of the particles and the spaces between them, there is a ton of air space. It holds moisture, that's what its for.

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Depends on the type of mulch.. composted wood chips tend to allow for gas excahge, BUT the stuff landscapers sell will mat and block air movement..
And it is not really "rot" at the base.. If you look at trees which have been heavily mulched or buried, the trunk flare becomes retarded, thus making them more prone to catastrophic storm failure.. There are probably other harmful effects casued by restriction of gas exchange too.. That one is just very obvious from simple observation..
 
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10. Be wary of people who knock on your door and say they want to trim your tree. Good arborists don’t need to canvas neighborhoods looking for customers.


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This bit of advice bothers me immensely. Sure I can understand being wary of the guy in the beat up pickup wearing a T-shirt saying "Cut 'em all down" or the guy that tells you the tree has got to be worked on "right now" but to be wary of them all is a huge, erroneous generalization.

As part of our normal procedure and marketing we go door to door to the neighbors of where we are working to let them know what we will be doing and to leave a flyer with them.

First, many folks appreciated knowing when a neighbor's tree is being worked on especially if it is being removed.

Second, I cannot tell you how many times one of these folks says, "I'm glad you stopped by. I've been thinking about this old tree out back...."

Good Arborists are Smart Arborists and they look at all methods of marketing to get their name out there, including shaking the bushes door to door.

Door to Door is just one more marketing tool in their toolkit. Some tools are not used often but that doesn't meen they aren't necessary or effective.

Let us also not forget there is a difference between marketing/selling professioanlly and looking to grab every dollar one can.

The huckabuck is simply a schmuck out for a buck but the pro is out for a client relationship.

I suppose the difference between the two can be summed up in how the knocking arborist goes about the door to door process.

OK, off my soap box now.
 
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"the mulch is more of a problem becasue it blocks air.. "gas exchange", than because it hold moisture. "

Thats not really accurate. If you think about the size of the particles and the spaces between them, there is a ton of air space. It holds moisture, that's what its for.

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Depends on the type of mulch.. composted wood chips tend to allow for gas excahge, BUT the stuff landscapers sell will mat and block air movement..
And it is not really "rot" at the base.. If you look at trees which have been heavily mulched or buried, the trunk flare becomes retarded, thus making them more prone to catastrophic storm failure.. There are probably other harmful effects casued by restriction of gas exchange too.. That one is just very obvious from simple observation..

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Referance from the University of Florida ifas extension.

If mulch is piled against the trunk, pull it back several inches to uncover the
base of the trunk and the root fl are. Mulch piled against tree trunks holds
moisture against the trunk, and stems and trunks that remain constantly
wet are prone to root rot. Mulch piled high against the trunks of young
trees may also create habitats for rodents that chew the bark and can girdle
the trees.
 
also mulch in contact with the trunk is a great way for pests and disease both to enter the tree and mulch is a must it helps regulate soil temps in a manmade environment in nature God mulches evrything
 

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