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  1. owScott

    Liberalism ruins everything it touches.

    I am definately in favor of laws. Laws should be inacted to prevent people from doing things that effect other people. I am not in favor of the laws that prevent people from making bad decisins that only effect them. This is the root of the whole debate not whether killing innocent people is...
  2. owScott

    Liberalism ruins everything it touches.

    Here is the skinny, you seem to have a good tree businees that is sucsessful and you seem like a decent person. Cant you see how it appears that you are talking down to people and as an earlier post suggested " holier than thou" Whats so hard to understand about other people having a different...
  3. owScott

    Liberalism ruins everything it touches.

    So when you give to the needy do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by men. I tell youi the truth , they have recieved their rewards in full. Mathew 6
  4. owScott

    Liberalism ruins everything it touches.

    As a courtesy I will provide this follow up response. I have stated that I understand your position. Murdering an innocent human being is wrong. I am fine with your opinion, although I disagree. I have done my best to explain my position from several perspectives. This discuss has become circular.
  5. owScott

    Liberalism ruins everything it touches.

    Let me clarify, I am advocating for choice across the boards regardless if I agree with it. To say you dont oppose choice then advocate from a position that removes people choice is contradictory. After years of conversing with you I thought you were a small govt stay out of my business guy. And...
  6. owScott

    Liberalism ruins everything it touches.

    Problem here is that you dont realize everything you say is an opinion, you talk as though it is fact. Please site where I have told you that I think you should get an abortion and have taken steps to efforce that. I truely understand that it is your conviction that abortion is wrong, bad and...
  7. owScott

    Liberalism ruins everything it touches.

    You are not opposed to choices as long as you agree with them. You graciously grant forgiveness and grace to those that believe only what what you believe and if they dont then bads things will happen to them in the end. This post is contradictory. FYI using many powerful adjectives and listing...
  8. owScott

    Liberalism ruins everything it touches.

    You seems to advocate for keeping personal things personal but dont have a problem telling other people what to do regarding their bodies which seems personal to me. All your points are precitable and bring nothing new to this conversation, unwaivering means you are not hear to have a real...
  9. owScott

    Hi

    Now thats good info, far more stimulating than all these political discussions
  10. owScott

    Liberalism ruins everything it touches.

    My point here being killing, murdering, aborting or what ever adjective you want to use is ugly but sometimes necesary.
  11. owScott

    Liberalism ruins everything it touches.

    I invite you to think for a moment on the words "not necessarily" and " the arguement could be made". In life sometimes tough desicions are made and they can be ugly.
  12. owScott

    Liberalism ruins everything it touches.

    So you are on shakey ground here. Are you saying that there is an acceptable time to murder a human being but only when you deem it is ok? You are lumping people all in 1 group with this whole inside and outside the uterus idea, why wouldnt an innocent or not innocent russian soldier be the same...
  13. owScott

    Liberalism ruins everything it touches.

    Thats a ridiculous comparison. You are trying to lump everything in 1 basket which isnt reality. So to put it in the terms that you understand, yes murdering someone while they are still inside the body is acceptable, murdering someone when they are outside the body is not. I can see there is a...
  14. owScott

    Liberalism ruins everything it touches.

    Just think of all the time, money and energy that people have expended in the previuos decades demanding that other people live the way they want them too were used to address the problems children and our world have been struggling with. Do these people really think this is solving a problem...
  15. owScott

    Liberalism ruins everything it touches.

    IMO its the 1st. I just dont believe the 3rd player here, the govt, should be involved in that desicion. I fully respect your right to make that decision for yourself, but other people making that desicion for someone else is none of their business.
  16. owScott

    Liberalism ruins everything it touches.

    These people want government control when it suits them but with other issues like guns or enviroment protection regs they are hands off, " dont tread on me". Blatant hyocrisy. These people are trying to define freedom as you can do anything you want, as long as we agree with it.
  17. owScott

    Liberalism ruins everything it touches.

    Energy independence is code for more drilling in sensitive areas . Any step toward renewable energy just pisses the "energy independence" crew off.
  18. owScott

    Liberalism ruins everything it touches.

    I agree with you about doing things right, like I said spit balling just throwing out thoughts. My main point being there are some gray areas if someone wished to explore them. I am not that guy.
  19. owScott

    Liberalism ruins everything it touches.

    Fellas thanks for the banter this weekend, back to the real world tomorrow. Evening
  20. owScott

    Liberalism ruins everything it touches.

    Good input. What if my employee is a friend or a family member? Cant I give them a gift?I am spit balling here but where does employee, friend, or family member seperate? Cant they be all of these at once or seperate them. This could get real confusing. Thoughts? What about subs?

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