OT: The new version of the Skylotec Passo solved the unintended opening problem with building the gate thick so the buttons do not stick out anymore.
I can make a picture if someone is really interested in this.
Super minimal, yeah, but you dont fit a spliced eye through the small ring. Maybe minimalists love knots as well... ;)
Another nice option is the 6mm thimble from DMM, it fits through large rings also.
Thanks Moss, so you're just referring to the Grid Lock karabiner design?
The Grid Lock Magnetron as the Rock Lock Magnetron are out all the Year already, but the BD Page says they are new as well:
http://blackdiamondequipment.com/en/climbing-carabiners-quickdraws
Thats why I am confused...
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Mark, can you explain how that pic could possible happen? I can see cross loading it with a sling or splice pulling against the gate, in doing so depressing the magnets, but as soon as the weight is removed the magnets would lock. How would you cross load a biner like your...
IMO the Magnetron would and should be totally fine for comps.
Although I personally didnt get used to it on my lanyard fast enough so it would still be there... ;)
Nice design anyway, a lot of thought went into that (I had a nice little talk to one of the designers at a show, love to ask the...
Check the HSE "Rigging Report", from page 155.
And be sure to read all of it if you didnt yet... ;)
Great ressource of information for our industry!
http://www.hse.gov.uk/research/rrhtm/rr668.htm
Now that is indeed interesting Moray!
Do you have numbers to compare the breaking strenghts of those type of splices in the same rope material?
Or can you roughly estimate it?
And why do you mean it is not symmetrical?
You can find more Info on that here:
http://ukcaving.com/board/index.php?topic=15112.0
Download the original document for the destruction testing here (its italian):
http://www.sns-cai.it/item/test-sul-crol-petzl-di-recente-produzione
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If we could put the load to the biner it would work..... Ive thought about a rated advancing tether but it gets very sketchy with liability ....
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In my experience it does not work too, its not possibe to pull rope through the device when its loaded.
There IS a diference between the Grillion and Grigri 1, it ist the spring loaded cam of the Grigri! And it does make a big fifference on some ropes (especially thinner ones) and some uses.
For a basal anchor a Grillon is the better one, for a lanyard as well.
Tha cam on the Grigri "frees" the...
@ Kevin: sorry for the confusion, I did not mean the Pantin as well, (as I wrote before) it is clearly no life support!
@ yoyoman: thats pretty much how I feel and think too, thanks!
For Euro-stuff:
These things are rated (15Kn) but because they cut the rope at way lower loads (4-6kN) the ratings are irrelevant.
Also ratings sometimes do not have to be found on the device when the EN Norm does not say so, ratings can then be found in the specific the EN Norms f.e.