Product Recall DMM Compact Swivel Units

Njdelaney said:
Anyone hear anything back from DMM yet since shipping them your gear?
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In end January I had purchased a DMM Impact Block XS and had got back to DMM with how impressed I was with the finish and build details - it's like jewelry - beautiful. Some new slings and away we go as spring comes to the Great White North! Anyway Chris Rowlands, DMM Climbing Export Sales Manager got back to me with a note back where he stated DMM was well on the way to start returning new units next month (that'd be this February) and are working on logistics of it all - can't imagine how much work that is trying to organize something like this on a worldwide basis. So they're a comin'. Cheers.
 
ghostice said:
In end January I had purchased a DMM Impact Block XS and had got back to DMM with how impressed I was with the finish and build details - it's like jewelry - beautiful. Some new slings and away we go as spring comes to the Great White North! Anyway Chris Rowlands, DMM Climbing Export Sales Manager got back to me with a note back where he stated DMM was well on the way to start returning new units next month (that'd be this February) and are working on logistics of it all - can't imagine how much work that is trying to organize something like this on a worldwide basis. So they're a comin'. Cheers.
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Thanks for sharing. Top notch company in my book!
 
Granted they might be another point of potential failure which is why I wouldn't want any Chinesium. Swivels are used in crane work in arb and in process industry even for critical lifts, so I just want to be sure about the quality control etc. (i.e. No Fake Parts). I feel safer with something like DMM swivels than with the cowboys designing 737 Max's these days . . . . DMM = No Bean Counters, the other, Well Sigh, seems they used to be an engineering company, now, another day another lawsuit and another move of head office further away from production lines . . . . $$$$$$. I just watch who I buy from. Only my two cents tho. Cheers
 
rico said:
Swivels give me the creeps. Never got comfortable having one anywhere near my life support.
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I was the same way for years, just another link in the chain that can go bad. Then I got a SwivaEye biner on my HHX and I was hooked. Now I have one for each Bulldog Bone and one for my lanyard on the lower D's. Not sure what changed in my head but I just treat them like carabiners. I really like Rock Exotica swivels, and the Camp Gyro is a wicked design as well, fully open and inspectable....
 
In this video August break tests his 4-5 year old ZigZag with a swivel, it broke the side plate out at 4,448 pounds and required tying a knot in the line to jam up at the links. At about 8 minutes in.

 
I run three swivels on my harness. All back at DMM right now :(
They reported that mid February they anticipated the returns. Not holding my breath.
But I feel like I am back in the stone age without them.
 
Muggs said:
I was the same way for years, just another link in the chain that can go bad. Then I got a SwivaEye biner on my HHX and I was hooked. Now I have one for each Bulldog Bone and one for my lanyard on the lower D's. Not sure what changed in my head but I just treat them like carabiners. I really like Rock Exotica swivels, and the Camp Gyro is a wicked design as well, fully open and inspectable....
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If I was gonna climb on a swivel it would definitely be on one of Rock Exotica’s swivels.
 
Shadowscape said:
I run three swivels on my harness. All back at DMM right now :(
They reported that mid February they anticipated the returns. Not holding my breath.
But I feel like I am back in the stone age without them.
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Hello, @Shadowscape!
Welcome to the TreeBuzz forum! I think you are going to like it here! Congratulations on making your first couple of posts to the forums, especially in such important threads!

Be sure to try using the forum's search box to find older threads on any topic of interest that relates to tree work. The threads go back for years. I look forward to reading more from you! Take care. TimBr
 
TimBr said:
Hello, @Shadowscape!
Welcome to the TreeBuzz forum! I think you are going to like it here! Congratulations on making your first couple of posts to the forums, especially in such important threads!

Be sure to try using the forum's search box to find older threads on any topic of interest that relates to tree work. The threads go back for years. I look forward to reading more from you! Take care. TimBr
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Yes welcome. Enjoy the flow.
 
rico said:
IMHO the swivel is another one of those tools that the industry has made us believe we can’t live without.

I consistently have 250-350 ft of climbing line in my system and was assured that a swivel would keep things aligned and help with twisting, but damned if it didn’t make matters worse. Thugfuckery.
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I definitely don't need swivels in my life. Then again, I don't need most of these things. I just got used to adding a few things to the kit each year, and at some point swivels came into the mix. They can help with tending in awkward positions and with alignment in multi-rope setups. Are they over hyped? For sure. In most setups they are a frill, a nice to have. Lots of modern doodads fit into that category. I regularly fluctuate between being the old man shaking my fist at all the newfangled gadgets that you don't actually need, and trying to discern the few newer bits that might actually make things slightly better. 3-strand manila and a Tautline might be all we actually need after all, but why stop there? It's too easy to lump people into being old-school practical bare-bones minimalist, vs. being seen as a frivolous, new-shiny-gear chaser.........
 
Muggs said:
There's only 1 place that a swivel has become non-negotiable for me, and that's on my lower D's for my lanyard attachment. If you run your lanyard there instead of the upper D's, it gets very difficult to tend a lack without a swivel...
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I was just going to say that I really like a swivel at the lanyard adjuster side attachment on the lower D's. Agree 100%
 
@Muggs;

"It's too easy to lump people into being old-school practical bare-bones minimalist, vs. being seen as a frivolous, new-shiny-gear chaser........."

I don't know if you can tell what category I fit into or not, but I'm a member of Frivolous, New-Shiny-Gear Chaser's Anonymous.
 
Muggs said:
I definitely don't need swivels in my life. Then again, I don't need most of these things. I just got used to adding a few things to the kit each year, and at some point swivels came into the mix. They can help with tending in awkward positions and with alignment in multi-rope setups. Are they over hyped? For sure. In most setups they are a frill, a nice to have. Lots of modern doodads fit into that category. I regularly fluctuate between being the old man shaking my fist at all the newfangled gadgets that you don't actually need, and trying to discern the few newer bits that might actually make things slightly better. 3-strand manila and a Tautline might be all we actually need after all, but why stop there? It's too easy to lump people into being old-school practical bare-bones minimalist, vs. being seen as a frivolous, new-shiny-gear chaser.........
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This has nothing to do with new school/old school, but everything to do with the fact that I dont trust swivels in my life support systems. Add to that the fact that they didnt perform like I would have hoped and the choice is easy for me.

The thought of going back to a tautline hitch send a shiver up my spine. A 3 strand 7/8"manilla wire-core flip-line on the other hand is still king when it comes to rollin up a 6ft+ stick...Nothing like it!
 
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