Wrench looking kinda device, the Apex.

Venture capitalists? Look at all the shit Sherrill has done over the years! Long while back I bought a pole saw from Wesspur, a silky. It came PLASTERED with sherrill stickers all over the box. Obviously with how long I had to wait it was dropped shipped from the sole distributor for silky in NORTH AMERICA. Pretty tacky bullshit if you ask me.
Haven’t seen anything good of them since..

I have a zk1 and zk2 (my second one), both have gone through a few slick pins, and I see no reason to change. I’ve recently invested in a bunch of hybrid devises - runner and - zigzag. I still use the wrench. I have no interest in trying something new at this point, but if my current zk2 gets lost or damaged I’d seriously look at this new ISC before supporting notch if I can avoid it.
 
At this point, I will stick with my ZK 2's. Have so many. They work flawless. I only use 11.7mm 24 strand ropes. Do not need adjustments IMHO. Simplicity is gold. But nice to see new devices for climbers to choose from. Nothing wrong with that. Used a notch rope runner pro for a bit. Had nothing over my OG's. Except a weak spring. Ditched it quick. Back to a wrench, so damn reliable. If I am rec climbing a runner is great fun though.
 
Bart_ said:
My oops on the Akimbo analogy, cam and roller positions are reversed.

MapleLeafRopes, could you measure the tether length from center of pin on the wrench to center of the lower eyes?

If you get the chance, see what the hand force to release is like , bigger or smaller, when you dial up min and max frictions but also using a big sloppy sitback VT hitch and/vs a tight little hitch like a compact hitch-hiker hitch or some such. I believe this could illustrate who sets first, hitch or the wrench and thus affects the loading distribution/lockup. On one of the devices I made the hitch tuning totally determined the overall performance.

I think I'm going to innovate up a new bollard for my old ZK1 copy and up the amount of eccentric camming from its current level. Maybe I'll get off my duff and actually do some testing.

Thanks in advance:)
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Just posted a quick video to our Instagram with some initial thoughts from Isaac our Arborist sales specialist. Not sure if I can post the link without violating any forum rules so you may have to look us up there. Isaac had to cut out early yesterday for a family emergency and won't be back until tomorrow so I might need another day to answer your questions with a bit more detail. You'll see from our video that I wasn't able to score one of the new tethers at the show so I will have to answer that question next week when everything arrives. Just wanted you to know I am still working on this!

Thanks!
 
MapleLeafRopes said:
Just posted a quick video to our Instagram with some initial thoughts from Isaac our Arborist sales specialist. Not sure if I can post the link without violating any forum rules so you may have to look us up there. Isaac had to cut out early yesterday for a family emergency and won't be back until tomorrow so I might need another day to answer your questions with a bit more detail. You'll see from our video that I wasn't able to score one of the new tethers at the show so I will have to answer that question next week when everything arrives. Just wanted you to know I am still working on this!

Thanks!
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Just a few quick thoughts before I forget to respond. Its more reactive/responsive than the original rope wrench or the Notch Flow. With its ability to adjust friction you can adjust how much pull is required for either a loose or a tight VT. I will get you the measurements when their tether comes in at the end of the month. We've been using the 12" @height tether and you'd be able to get away with a VT but it would need to be fairly tight. We'll do a deeper dive when we have a little more time next week but its a bit crazy right now as we are warming up for our big black Friday sale next week. Hope this helps!
 
Tree-Taylor said:
I love the swiveling plate and adjustable friction. It looks like a quality product.

I don't love that they cut the inventor out of the design process and changed the name of the device.
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They took the sideplate access from the chicane, a design that I prefer when I have gloves on, and made it more sleek like the ZK-2. There doesn't seem to be any original ideas; just capitalizing on the good ideas of various predecessors.
 
Tree-Taylor said:
Does anyone have pictures of the new Akimbo?
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It was an early demo made in Jammie's garage so its not really representative of what a v2 R.E version would look like (it still had a upper tending point hole for example that's definitely being removed) Talking with Jamie a bit it sounded like the only real major changes were the friction surfaces were going to be getting larger to allow for more fine control in the adjustment
 
Anyone with one in their hands, can you tell me if the ‘slick’ pin area rotates? It doesn’t look like a replaceable item. I’m sure the adjustment cam will wear, and can be tuned a bit with future adjustments.
Also will this work with the notch hard tether?
 
I haven't watched the videos yet, maybe it was mentioned, but what is the amount of adjustment in weight that this device can handle? I'm curious how it'd function as an adjustable rig-n-wrench. Also curious how it matches up to the friction provided by the zk-2
 
Jehinten said:
I haven't watched the videos yet, maybe it was mentioned, but what is the amount of adjustment in weight that this device can handle? I'm curious how it'd function as an adjustable rig-n-wrench. Also curious how it matches up to the friction provided by the zk-2
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I did fail to mention that, but I can't say this will handle the same forces as the Rig-N-Wrench. WLL is only listed at 264 lbs. Here's a link to the User Manual: https://www.iscwales.com/Uploads/Products/UIMs/1-302-5-2553-1-RP285A1-APEX-Rope-Wrench.pdf
 
evo said:
Anyone with one in their hands, can you tell me if the ‘slick’ pin area rotates? It doesn’t look like a replaceable item. I’m sure the adjustment cam will wear, and can be tuned a bit with future adjustments.
Also will this work with the notch hard tether?
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No it does not rotate and does not appear to be replaceable. It seems that this will be the biggest downside of the APEX. The Cam is probably most at risk of wearing. I can't say what material is is made of.

Sadly, It does not fit on the Notch Fusion Tether. I just tried to put it on myself and it will not seat flush to close it and put in the bolt to secure it...
 
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