Covid Close To You

[MikePowers321]

So you spent the last few pages voicing your support for the use of Ivermectin in treating covid, and you posted a link to an article which used multiple faulty and fraudulent studies to support the idea of Ivermectin in treating covid. If the shoe fits, wear it...

Rico - i said i used it, i never said it worked. Re-read my posts. You asked for exactly how ivermectin worked. I linked an article to table 2 with multiple citation links To try to make sense of its biological action...i never said they were fully accurate. How would I truly know that? Im not in the lab Doing these experiments. Just trying to make sense of it all. I was glad you said that one was a flawed study. I respect that. Carry on.....

 

[treebing]

Thats actually very interesting. My lady works on a small organic farm and uses ivm frequently We use llama poo for soil replenishment. Thanks for that interesting info kevin : )

just like there is mask pollution now. i really wonder about what the effect of most if SA and India popping it and all the Daniels out there flushing all that extra amount of wormicide directly into the watersupply, it has to have an effect somewhere along the way. Im curious what it will be.

 

[rico]

Rico - i said i used it, i never said it worked. Re-read my posts. You asked for exactly how ivermectin worked. I linked an article to table 2 with multiple citation links To try to make sense of its biological action...i never said they were fully accurate. How would I truly know that? Im not in the lab Doing these experiments. Just trying to make sense of it all. I was glad you said that one was a flawed study. I respect that. Carry on.....

I apologize Mike. Your recent posts made it pretty clear that you support the idea of using ivermectin in the treatment of covid, so I was attempting to give you a little good natured shit about your comment concerning the "pro ivm" label.

I also wholeheartedly support you or anyone else exercising their right to choose what to do with their body.. Your body, your choice. What I do have issue with is all the ivermectin dis/misinformation floating around the interweb..

 

[MikePowers321]

I apologize Mike. Your recent posts made it pretty clear that you support the idea of using ivermectin in the treatment of covid, so I was attempting to give you a little good natured shit about your comment concerning the "pro ivm" label.

I also wholeheartedly support you or anyone else exercising their right to choose what to do with their body.. Your body, your choice. What I do have issue with is all the ivermectin dis/misinformation floating around the interweb..

Appreciate that Rico - all the love and respect to you and our human family. We can all work together here. Hope all is well in redwood land and im sure your notches are still dead on as always

 

[DSMc]

What can we do?

 

[treebing]

https://www.motherjones.com/environ...-ivermectin-poop-covers-planet-farming-cattle. this was written in 2016.

 

[evo]

Iver is a oldschool highly effective drug, with rampant list of side effects. It’s been used in humans for many many years, and it’s still common if not over the counter in many countries for human use. I know many gutter punks who cured all sorts of things with it in the form of panacure, and I’ve used it a whole bunch on reptiles.
I can tell you why and how it’s not a desirable drug for human use…. And my wife has one of the big fucken bottles of it, why? Because she needs it, not for covid (as I’m sure y’all know). BUT it was hell filling the RX, from pharmacists scrutiny

ivermectin has the unintended side effect of making poop un compostible. this has been an environmental issue for years as it will also kill dung beetles and other decomposers. ive noticed this getting horse manure from the mounted police, that it weirdly doesnt break down. i can imagine that might be a problem for human waste as well.

im keeping my snarky ass self from making the comments I had in my head about this one.

 

[evo]

i hardly ever wear a mask. have not much through this whole thing. certain rare situations absolutely. I also dont take ivermectin. id wear a mask long before horse dewormer. but dewormer might be worth a shot in certain situations. vaccine seems easier, more efficient on my end and more effective.
I know masks work and have been used for a long time. not a matter "how long will we use them" They will be a tool forever and have been forever as far as I know. And, they have gotten much better over the last 50 years! Using them right is another matter. look to the japanese and taiwanese on that matter as they have more experience with hygiene and self and community care in crowded conditions. .

maybe keep track of the hospital capacity and stress level and virus level to make that decision. I absolutely think that the maskers are way over the top in their masking and thays because its become a political thing, like a political badge. as opposed to a common sense thing. and people have just escalated it. doesnt mean they shouldnt be a practical tool.

I still wear a mask basically everywhere in public. But I also have a unvaxxed child, and a wife with Lyme that’s going through some wild shit. I wear the mask for them, I’m a scarce introvert by nature, so avoiding people is second nature. Meaning if myself is the only one to look after, I could easily say that I only really mask up at the grocery store, but it’s not that simple

 

[evo]

How long should we wear masks, Kevin? When will there not be a time that little Susie or Jimmy will be free of the guilt that they may have killed granny? Do you know that there are some 3 and 4 year-olds that don't even know what their playmates look like without a mask? Do you understand the need for the constant and natural exposure to pathogens for our immunological development and its ability to respond appropriately? Is the health advise and standards we are being given making us healthier?

We only have to wear them for another year or two is my guess.. it’s never in a parasites best interest to eradicate their host. Becoming more infectious, oh hells yes. But before long most everyone will have been infected or vaccinated, thus having some level of immunity. In time it will be just like the Spanish flu, which is only passed because it’s mutated so many times

 

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[DSMc]

I wonder how much of a difference getting correct information would have made?

The first 3 minutes of this is all you need to understand.

 

[Daniel]

Dude. The PDF you just linked literally cites the debunked Ahmed Elgazzar Egyptian study multiple times. Its one of the largest and most often cited studies among the pro-ivermectin crowd... One problem though. It's fucking fake news.

https://www.theguardian.com/science...vid-treatment-withdrawn-over-ethical-concerns

You're easily fooled... again ... very surprising... there have been multiple studies and meta-analysis..

just imagine instead of a talented tree cutter you were one of the largest pharma companies in the world and you were making billions of dollars from vaxxine and high dollar patented treatments for a new disease. And you found out that there is a cheap and effective treatment or three that was very effective at curing people, keeping them from needing hospitalization and vaxxines and other new drugs. This old tried and true anti-parasitic that was now re-purposed would be a threat to your billions of dollars. DO you think you would act to stop it? You would use every available asset and all the resources and connections you had to keep this drug from competing with your vaxxines and expensive drugs.

 

[rico]

You're easily fooled... again ... very surprising... there have been multiple studies and meta-analysis..

just imagine instead of a talented tree cutter you were one of the largest pharma companies in the world and you were making billions of dollars from vaxxine and high dollar patented treatments for a new disease. And you found out that there is a cheap and effective treatment or three that was very effective at curing people, keeping them from needing hospitalization and vaxxines and other new drugs. This old tried and true anti-parasitic that was now re-purposed would be a threat to your billions of dollars. DO you think you would act to stop it? You would use every available asset and all the resources and connections you had to keep this drug from competing with your vaxxines and expensive drugs.

You seem to be missing my point here Daniel. You, as well as others, are linking articles that are citing flawed, and even fraudulent studies. Not really the best way to support you narrative bro. Does this mean that I trust the pharma companies, or the CDC? Fuck no!

 

[Bart_]

Devil's advocate, Daniel, in a friendly way, why would so many researchers including those at big pharma work so long and hard for (about 6 vaccines around the world?) if they could have just sold boat loads of the existing medicine, a good extra 6 months on the market with no development upfront layout? Hundreds of thousands more lives saved. Unless perhaps it wasn't shown to be effective. Don't recall the jury ever coming in conclusively on that one, but do recall bogus stuff like Rico points out.

Call that the blade of grass in the mouth creek side analysis, without delving into tech details. I've been escaping to watching Andy Griffith, can you tell?

 

[treebing]

no one is stopping anyone from taking ivermectin. millions and millions of doses have been taken to fight covid. probably more than any other drug outside of the vaccine. some have gotten better, some have died.

 

[DSMc]

no one is stopping anyone from taking ivermectin...

Are you serious or just trolling?

 

[treebing]

daniel has been taking it. most of SA, India and eastern europe have been taking it. You could take it too if you wanted too.

How easy is it to get an ivermectin prescription? It took us 3 hours.

Telehealth platforms make it easy to get off-label prescriptions of the anti-parasitic drug that the right has embraced

www.salon.com

 

[DSMc]

So the fact that news media demonize it, proclaiming anyone using this 'right wing anti-parasitic' to be ignorant, mainstream doctors will not, and can not, legally prescribe it and most pharmacies will not sell human grade ivermectin for covid19 control, doesn't count in your comment "no one is stopping anyone from taking ivermectin"?

Both Sylvia and I had Covid, took the horse paste ivermectin. Worked great. We know many, many people who resorted to the same with quick resolutions to Covid symptoms and no adverse reactions.

 

[treebing]

my point exactly, no one stopped you. i know many people that cured themselves with elderberry tonic too. The media has been talking about ivermectin for almost two years. Daniel has been flooding the internet with pro ivermectin propaganda. Id use it maybe if i got sick and know how to get it. My technique has been neti pot and daily tounge scraping. im convinced that would save more lives than anything if everyone did that. no peer reviewed reseach to back it up though regarding covid.

 

[evo]

It’s a shotgun treatment. Simple as that..