Covid Close To You
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Mike Islander
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My New Years goal is to acquire natural (and actual) Covid immunity. Trying to find an Omicron donor is impossible! I guess the predictions of millions of cases by the end of December were an overestimate. Or perhaps the symptoms are so mild folks just think they have the sniffles. ;-)
So were seeing 400,00-500,000 new cases a day, and 70%-75% of new cases are Omi.. Seems we have probably already hit the "millions of cases" mark.
Reach
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Learned this morning that my sister has COVID now for the second time in a year, and I believe she is fully vaccinated. Hopefully she does not share it with her four year old or her six month old, that would be especially bad!
Any bets on how long Covid can be kept alive? I heard it's projected to stay vigorous through next summer. States is only 62% vaccinated so there's 38% healthy food source to keep it kicking there. But there's the countries with huge populations with virtually no vaccination to serve as a petrie dish for new variants too. So maybe the real bet to be made is where the next dominant variant will be discovered. I previously had my bet on Stateside, Florida area. Other bet is whether the new variant also changes enough to make current medicine ineffective. We're partially there on that one.
Are you doing your part to keep Covid prosperous? Gotta give it a chance or it might die out, get eradicated like polio and such. Aaaah the good old days of polio, chicken pox, mumps, measles, shingles, post-polio .....
Are you doing your part to keep Covid prosperous? Gotta give it a chance or it might die out, get eradicated like polio and such. Aaaah the good old days of polio, chicken pox, mumps, measles, shingles, post-polio .....
When this first started I asked that same thing. My bet was two weeks!
Mike Islander
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Excellent. Almost nothing could possibly be better, if Omicron is as mundane as reported. We all get actual, long lasting immunity. Not one death, yet.
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And while I'm in a crotchety mood, if you gather enough anecdotes carefully, verify they're not bogus, make sure it was't coincidence and really get your shit together you can draw conclusions from the anecdotes and let people know your new found wisdom, get fame and no fortune with your name at the top of a published study. You even get to use the word scientific. But until you do that don't lead people down the path of voodoo cancer surgery where they pull out a chunk of liver miraculously without even cutting you open (and you die anyway, you poorer and them richer).
Now who's going to let out the secret study of 10's of thousands of ivermectin anecdotes? The one that was verified and easily duplicated. And the verification studies. What's the holdup? You could fix the world. Literally. Show 95% protection from ivermectin. Knock all those worldwide vaccines back out of the running.
Hospital ICU's will tout you as a hero. Health care workers will get a break from burnout. Your aunt Martha will finally get her year and a half postponed knee(s) replacement and stop hobbling.
Not aimed at anyone in particular. On a rare occasion my buttons can get pushed.
Crotchety (hopefully) over. Back to the usual.
Now who's going to let out the secret study of 10's of thousands of ivermectin anecdotes? The one that was verified and easily duplicated. And the verification studies. What's the holdup? You could fix the world. Literally. Show 95% protection from ivermectin. Knock all those worldwide vaccines back out of the running.
Hospital ICU's will tout you as a hero. Health care workers will get a break from burnout. Your aunt Martha will finally get her year and a half postponed knee(s) replacement and stop hobbling.
Not aimed at anyone in particular. On a rare occasion my buttons can get pushed.
Crotchety (hopefully) over. Back to the usual.
Stumpsprouts
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That isn’t true, but there have not many.
Mike Islander
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Yes, FACTS matter. The fact is that there were many comorbidities with the single Harris County death, so there is still uncertainty on that. Not sure about the health of the tiny number of rrported deaths overseas. The very article you posted ignored the actual statement TO A REPORTER:
HCPH spokesperson Martha Marquez clarified information about the man’s death to journalist Dan Cohen.
“We cannot confirm that the patient died of COVID, but we can say that he was Omicron positive at the time of his death,” said Marquez.
In First Reported Omicron Death, Harris County Man Had Underlying Health Conditions
Although some media outlets characterized a Harris County man’s death as the first due to Omicron in the nation, the local health department reports underlying health issues and has not
Although some media outlets characterized a Harris County man’s death as the first due to Omicron in the nation, the local health department reports underlying health issues and has not released the primary cause of death.
In any case, given all possible benefit of doubt, the morbidity rate is unimaginablely small, perhaps far less than flu. This is, IMO, by far the best thing that could happen to solve this problem, and is exactly what solved the Spanish flu epidemic.
Having been vaccinated, I don't understand the pathological desire by other vaccinated people to ignore any bright light that allows our fellow Americans to choose for themselves and their children not to participate in a clinical study against their will with experimental gene therapies with known severe side effects, and there will certainly be side effects that are currently unknown.
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VenasNursery
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Best wishes to you and your family Sir
As I said earlier, I believe we should all be free to choose what we do with our own bodies.Yes, FACTS matter. The fact is that there were many comorbidities with the single Harris County death, so there is still uncertainty on that. Not sure about the health of the tiny number of rrported deaths overseas. The very article you posted ignored the actual statement TO A REPORTER:
HCPH spokesperson Martha Marquez clarified information about the man’s death to journalist Dan Cohen.
“We cannot confirm that the patient died of COVID, but we can say that he was Omicron positive at the time of his death,” said Marquez.
In First Reported Omicron Death, Harris County Man Had Underlying Health Conditions.In First Reported Omicron Death, Harris County Man Had Underlying Health Conditions
Although some media outlets characterized a Harris County man’s death as the first due to Omicron in the nation, the local health department reports underlying health issues and has notthetexan.news
Although some media outlets characterized a Harris County man’s death as the first due to Omicron in the nation, the local health department reports underlying health issues and has not released the primary cause of death.
In any case, given all possible benefit of doubt, the morbidity rate is unimaginablely small, perhaps far less than flu. This is, IMO, by far the best thing that could happen to solve this problem, and is exactly what solved the Spanish flu epidemic.
Having been vaccinated, I don't understand the pathological desire by other vaccinated people to ignore any bright light that allows our fellow Americans to choose for themselves and their children not to participate in a clinical study against their will with experimental gene therapies with known severe side effects, and there will certainly be side effects that are currently
What we shouldn't be allowed to do is spread dis/misinformation. Please stop doing so.
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Mike Islander
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Folks here are not idiots. They are free and obligated to check Data for themselves. Pretty sure most readers are getting my two main points, which you so far have mysteriously ignored.
1. Omicron has far lower morbidity than Delta.
2. Beating the virus provides orders of magnitude greater immunity than current vaccines.
These are my current beliefs, but based on the current data.
Oddly enough, despite reports on mild symptoms for Omicron, the CDC statement isn't "We do not have enough information yet to conclude Omicron is less dangerous than other variants", it says (paraphrasing, quotes are for delineation) "More data are needed to know if Omicron causes more severe illness or death than other variants".
Completely agree with points 1 & 2.
What I have issues with is some of your less than truthful claims. Much like folks citing flawed ivermectin studies, labeling Omicron as "mundane" is pure disinformation and hyperbole..
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/587809-omicron-sending-children-to-hospital-in-record-numbers
https://www.mercurynews.com/2021/12/30/omicron-sending-us-kids-to-hospital-in-near-record-numbers/
Mis/disinformation is gonna end us as a nation if we are not very careful.. Now more than ever we all need to do our best to keep it real.
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Mike Islander
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"Thruthful" isn't the appropriate term. Correct or incorrect describes my posts. Less truthful implies known deception. That kind of language is not very productive in an honest dialectic.
Regarding your links, they don't support your case. Kids go to the hospital for colds and flu too. What matters, and what is missing, are the results of the disease in those hospitalized. How would someone judge the severity of the disease from what is reported in those news reports? More importantly, how did you, as you seem to believe it shows my description of Omicron as mundane is incorrect. For context, I consider common flu mundane as well.
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Whether you are being untruthful or incorrect is not my concern..The end result is the same. Disinformation.
If record numbers of children being hospitalized because of Omi is somehow "mundane" to you, then I truly pity you buddy..
Bucknut
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Concerning record numbers of children being admitted because of Omicron:
Also per Fauci, remember that Omi is vastly more contagious, so naturally more kids are being infected. This doesn’t mean they are seriously ill, or even exhibiting symptoms.
Also per Fauci, remember that Omi is vastly more contagious, so naturally more kids are being infected. This doesn’t mean they are seriously ill, or even exhibiting symptoms.
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