Cereal_Killer
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Is that Yale confetti? Where on earth did you score it?! I've looked and looked and looked.
Hitch hiker/2/x thread
- Thread starter RBJtree
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No, it shouldn't.
dogwood
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- Garner, NC
There really isn't any need for a pulley underneath. It tends great without one.
dogwood
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Yes it is Confetti. I think it's been about four years, but as soon as Nick Araya announced he was doing the project, I wanted in, so I got 200'.
Cereal_Killer
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Didn't know the story behind it, figured it was a special run, who was the vendor when it was made?
Christrees
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Oh nice i like that. And i love that fucking rope. Awsome. But thats alot like the knute h. But with a twist. I like it. I check it out. Thanks
Christrees
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Yeah thats what i ment the vt. Alright thanks. Ill try it.
Leave it to a bunch of tree nerds to take one of the most simple and effective devices on the planet and fuck it up with overcomplicated hitches with WAY TOO many wraps. Do yourselves a favor and run a 3 or 4 wrap, properly dressed HH hitch. Learn how to run this tool as it was intended and you will be rewarded with lightning fast, world class performance and near friction free tending...
Here it is 180 from my previous picture, the bottom braid in front is desirable on the HH hitch and it isn’t on this hitch?
dogwood
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Nick got together with Jamie at Yale Cordage and they put it together.
Christrees
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Or you could experiment..try new things. Maybe create or own hitch. Better than any other. The day someone tells me how to run my gear. Is the day they take over my climbing. And that aint for another 20 years. But thanks anyway.
But if you would have said this another way....maybe id consider it.
Yes, we went through this awhile back when I mistakening claimed the braid was better in the back on the HH hitch, found out the dogbone didn’t generate much friction because it wasn’t being pulled into the rope, more work to release the hitch with only the carabiner working. It slid up easier but the original seems to be the best, so far.
Maybe my shenanigans in the past has led Dave to believe I’m using something other than stoppers in the dogbone?
Maybe my shenanigans in the past has led Dave to believe I’m using something other than stoppers in the dogbone?
Look at the orientation of the dogbone in these two pictures. The first one (on the left) is correct, the second one is not.
The dogbone needs to be 90° to the slot in order to keep it in a perpendicular orientation to the HH body. Running it in basically the removal position, is inviting the possibility of a jam.
The dogbone needs to be 90° to the slot in order to keep it in a perpendicular orientation to the HH body. Running it in basically the removal position, is inviting the possibility of a jam.
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Disclaimer: I've never used a hitch hiker. While the concept seems brilliant,, knotting the ends of the hitch cord through the dog bone seems to be the least elegant part of the hitch hiker design. Although it does offer the benefit of eliminating the need for eye-to-eye hitch cords, tying the stopper knot every time seems slightly cumbersome. Would replacing the dog bone with, for instance, a load bearing quick release pin be an improvement? The pin would be inserted through the eyes of an eye-to-eye hitch cord. I envision one similar to those used on Gibbs. A means of securing the hitch cord eye to the tip end of the QR pin would be required, such as a fender washer, which could be tethered to the body of the HH.
Alternatively, maybe one end of the dogbone could be slotted and have some type of gate or pin that would allow the hitch cord (with a pre-tied stopper knot) to be inserted and securely retained, eliminating the need to tie it every time.
Alternatively, maybe one end of the dogbone could be slotted and have some type of gate or pin that would allow the hitch cord (with a pre-tied stopper knot) to be inserted and securely retained, eliminating the need to tie it every time.
kludge
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- Eastern PA
@Dan Cobb, my HH2 is my go to climbing devise. I think you are right in that managing and tying the cord through the dogbone is the most fiddly part of the devise.
However, I do like the simplicity of manufacture and bomb-proofness of the system. Anything that makes it easier could also make it less secure or cause other problems. For example, the dog bone also stands off the rope from wearing on the edges of the HH2 body as it loads and unloads, so it provides wear protection for the hitch cord. And of course anything that opens can also accidentally open.
That said, some elegant solution that was secure, easy to use and just worked would be welcome.
However, I do like the simplicity of manufacture and bomb-proofness of the system. Anything that makes it easier could also make it less secure or cause other problems. For example, the dog bone also stands off the rope from wearing on the edges of the HH2 body as it loads and unloads, so it provides wear protection for the hitch cord. And of course anything that opens can also accidentally open.
That said, some elegant solution that was secure, easy to use and just worked would be welcome.
I consider that one of the biggest attractions of the HH. Just needs a few bucks worth of bulk cord, no eyes needed.
Not super elegant in some opinions, sure, but what a work horse!
Aren't you the young fella who doesnt seem to know the difference between a VT and a Knute?
