YXGood Climbing Harness $60: is this crap?

If you're doubtful, put a truck on it and see where it breaks. Don't be cheap if you aren't confident that you have the requisite knowledge to determine if a piece of gear is safe.
As far as stamps, I've gotten more lax. I might hang on a 14kn thing, even though the minimum allowable is 24?kn. I try to be mindful when I use lighter weight stuff.

I busted a freaking 6" C-clamp today changing my brakes. I just turned it with my hand. It pushed, I paused, and "ping"... it broke the spine.
I will not use hardware made by anyone that I don't trust. Nylon webbing? I've never just broken any of that.


You mentioned the 20kn $5 rap rings. They are hollow. Be aware. Running rope applications may see wear eat them.
 
Tom Dunlap said:
I trust certain companies with my life.

You're right. The ANSI system has the potential for the fox guarding the hen house. Again, do you trust the fox?
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Same here with the trust factor.. which sux because you could be totally passing up on good gear.. I'm sure some of these big name companies all started as unknowns who had perfectly fine products from day one, yet no one trusted them at that time.. if you get what i mean.

Wish i could see some break testing on some of the cheaper stuff.. but then again, the problem with the cheap over seas stuff is usually the quality control/consistency.. not the actual product design itself.

Then there's business like US Rigging Supply.. how many of us use them? There's a few products on their site that are so inexpensive, youd have to believe they are made over seas, however the masses trust them because it says US Rigging Supply.. I'm sure there are quite a few examples like that.. You know, where the identical looking rope brakes will be $70-$80 from one company & $25 from another..

SomethingWitty said:
Don't be cheap if you aren't confident that you have the requisite knowledge to determine if a piece of gear is safe.

As far as stamps, I've gotten more lax. I might hang on a 14kn thing, even though the minimum allowable is 24?kn. I try to be mindful when I use lighter weight stuff.

I busted a freaking 6" C-clamp today changing my brakes. I just turned it with my hand. It pushed, I paused, and "ping"... it broke the spine.

You mentioned the 20kn $5 rap rings. They are hollow. Be aware. Running rope applications may see wear eat them.
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That really is good advice though... if you don't know enough.. don't buy cheap..

Touching on the ratings you are comfortable using.. what blows my mind is that Yale Cordage video of that rather thick Unitrex being shock loaded & completely failing at such a small load.. it's got something like a 20,000lb rating & all it took was 220lbs falling a few feet to snap it. To be quite honest, that's eff'n scary. Really makes you want to understand your rope designs..

No kidding.. i didnt know these rap rings were hollow, i though they were light because they were aluminumn. Are they all like that? I thought these rings were designed to have rope flow through them.. you know, like the friction savers, etc.. I can only imagne how quickly they would wear with a dirty rope or gouge when used on a bridge & have s steel lanyard snap hooked to them.. maybe i should rethink these specific rings on the bridge..

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Bob Bob said:
I had no idea rings of this nature were hollow. Thanks for educating me and others.
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Upon a quick internet search, I found that the omega pacific rings are not hollow.
I assume others may not be as well...
They should be more clear about this. Traditionally they were hollow and to be used in a disposable fashion at the top of long rappels.
 
SomethingWitty said:
Upon a quick internet search, I found that the omega pacific rings are not hollow.
I assume others may not be as well...
They should be more clear about this. Traditionally they were hollow and to be used in a disposable fashion at the top of long rappels.
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Disposable... as in one long rappel & toss them out?

I have the small Omega Pacific rings blue 20kn ones.... What's odd is the even smaller red ISC rings i have are 32kn, if I'm reading the markings correctly.. Speaking of Omega Pacific... Sheesh... They sure do have allot of biners.. However, i don't think i could find a one swivel Biner or Snap hook out of all the products they offer.. maybe i missed them or something.. Thought it was rather odd.

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I agree with using a truck to pull a harness apart to check the strength, if you want some actual data to go along with it, treestuff offers an affordable break test for splicing. I'm sure they could give you the actual breaking strength of each part of this harness.
 
Jehinten said:
I agree with using a truck to pull a harness apart to check the strength, if you want some actual data to go along with it, treestuff offers an affordable break test for splicing. I'm sure they could give you the actual breaking strength of each part of this harness.
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So yall that are talking bout straping gear up to trucks & what not.. Are we talking about buying two harnesses & if the first doesn't fail you use the second? Or are y'all actually trying to rip these things apart & then use them for life support.. IDK... but i get the feeling my truck would destroy any harness i strapped it to.... i mean know I've snapped plenty of hd tow straps over the years, webbing, chain. Most recently, IIRC a 3/4 bull rope with a dump. Idk maybe yall are taking about something different...

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Yes on the buying two, and destroying one. If just making the rope tight breaks the harness than it is obviously junk. If you need to give it a bit of a pull to get it to fail then it may give you peace of mind on how well it is constructed. That's where the good judgement comes in on how well it did, since you will not have any numbers to back it up. The treestuff break test is a bit more scientific with actual data. Pricing starts at $25 https://www.treestuff.com/store/catalog.asp?item=3660#detail
 
Jehinten said:
Yes on the buying two, and destroying one. If just making the rope tight breaks the harness than it is obviously junk. If you need to give it a bit of a pull to get it to fail then it may give you peace of mind on how well it is constructed. That's where the good judgement comes in on how well it did, since you will not have any numbers to back it up. The treestuff break test is a bit more scientific with actual data. Pricing starts at $25 https://www.treestuff.com/store/catalog.asp?item=3660#detail
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Ohhhhhh hahaha.. ok.. i gotchya..

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Jimmycrackcorn said:
Disposable... as in one long rappel & toss them out?

I have the small Omega Pacific rings blue 20kn ones.... What's odd is the even smaller red ISC rings i have are 32kn, if I'm reading the markings correctly.. Speaking of Omega Pacific... Sheesh... They sure do have allot of biners.. However, i don't think i could find a one swivel Biner or Snap hook out of all the products they offer.. maybe i missed them or something.. Thought it was rather odd.

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I know those tiny red rings. They're milled and very thick compared to their diameter. The bend radius is tight.

More like set them at the top and rap down and leave them there. Pulling several hundred feet of dirty rope through the set pieces would wear them out, so you bring a disposable thing that you can set your rope through, rap down, and then pull your line. Or if there is no anchor, you set a webbing sling with the ring on it and do the same.
OP may only cater to sport climbing, which would explain the lack of pro-climbing style hardware.
 
SomethingWitty said:
I know those tiny red rings. They're milled and very thick compared to their diameter. The bend radius is tight.

More like set them at the top and rap down and leave them there. Pulling several hundred feet of dirty rope through the set pieces would wear them out, so you bring a disposable thing that you can set your rope through, rap down, and then pull your line. Or if there is no anchor, you set a webbing sling with the ring on it and do the same.
OP may only cater to sport climbing, which would explain the lack of pro-climbing style hardware.
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So what happens when you use your 300 dollar Unicender for something line that? Mingya.. the climbing ropes i used to work with.. my Lord.. That shit was a one size fits all solution.. Unless it was brand new, then you weren't allowed to get it too dirty for a week or so.. Honestly.. i don't know how some ppl keep their ropes so clean.. it must be a major project doing so.. more than just take a second here & there during the day to be conscientious of if it's in a dirt or not.. Shit..! Thats what i need.. a freaking rope bag!

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Jimmycrackcorn said:
So what happens when you use your 300 dollar Unicender for something line that? Mingya.. the climbing ropes i used to work with.. my Lord.. That shit was a one size fits all solution.. Unless it was brand new, then you weren't allowed to get it too dirty for a week or so.. Honestly.. i don't know how some ppl keep their ropes so clean.. it must be a major project doing so.. more than just take a second here & there during the day to be conscientious of if it's in a dirt or not.. Shit..! Thats what i need.. a freaking rope bag!

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They clean up pretty easily. Occasionally a rigging line gets left out in the rain and I'm always amazed how much better it looks. I bet if you actually washed one it would look great... I have never bothered.
 
I bought this harness when I was looking for my first tree working harness. One with the tool saddle loops, etc. And more back support.

I couldn't afford one that was few hundred dollars.

From my experience this is a great harness. Holds up just as good as the more expensive ones. I've been climbing on it for a year. Haven't bothered to buy a more expensive one because this one works and seems to be built sturdy and too last. I Inspect it daily obviously and it is still holding up good.

Normally I would go for the more expensive option but I just couldn’t afford it at the time so I had to go with some less pricey.
 
climbingmonkey24 said:
I bought this harness when I was looking for my first tree working harness. One with the tool saddle loops, etc. And more back support.

I couldn't afford one that was few hundred dollars.

From my experience this is a great harness. Holds up just as good as the more expensive ones. I've been climbing on it for a year. Haven't bothered to buy a more expensive one because this one works and seems to be built sturdy and too last. I Inspect it daily obviously and it is still holding up good.
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The price point puts it where it may be easier to replace the whole thing when the bridge starts looking iffy but there is also the option of cutting the aluminium rings off and putting the stainless shackles from the Treehog or Butterfly harness' if bridge modifications are needed.
 
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