Who wants this Alzheimer patient running the country?

Burrapeg said:
Maybe so, but is Trump doing anything to help? No, he is just fanning the flames. He has done absolutely nothing to unite the country or fix anything. It has just gotten worse under him. We have seen nothing but chaos and division under his administration.
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Caused by the Governors and Mayors that refuse his help. He‘s offered it and they’d rather watch hard working Americans lose everything.

The left hates this country.
 
Short Timer said:
Ahhhhh the Nazi card already. Hilarious. Are you White?
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Yes, whiter than white and proud of it. But I am no better than anyone else who may be proud of who they are too. Blacks and Hispanics and others can be proud of their culture too. It is the cultural diversity that makes this country great. I grew up in New Orleans, probably the most culturally mixed city in the US. The biggest melting pot I have ever seen. Love it.
 
Burrapeg said:
Yes, whiter than white and proud of it. But I am no better than anyone else who may be proud of who they are too. Blacks and Hispanics and others can be proud of their culture too. It is the cultural diversity that makes this country great. I grew up in New Orleans, probably the most culturally mixed city in the US. The biggest melting pot I have ever seen. Love it.
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The problem occurs when you support agendas to make you a minority. Are you ok with being a minority? Answer honestly please.

Yes, no or I don’t care?
 
Short Timer said:
But you can’t articulate what is being done. . . .
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You are not articulating very well either. You have not come up with any really positive reason for voting for Trump so far except racist oriented rants about immigrants. And what has your great Trump done about immigration reform that has worked? Where is the wall? The violence and riots breaking out in places here is in part due to the frustration and division that Trump is directly responsible for. It is no surprise that a lot of it is in Democratic-run areas. These are the places that are quickest to get disgusted with him and his policies. So what is he doing that is constructive to fix it? Sending in his Federal goons in Seattle and Portland did not work, if that is your idea of him offering help. It just made everything worse, very quickly.
 
Burrapeg said:
You are not articulating very well either. You have not come up with any really positive reason for voting for Trump so far except racist oriented rants about immigrants. And what has your great Trump done about immigration reform that has worked? Where is the wall? The violence and riots breaking out in places here is in part due to the frustration and division that Trump is directly responsible for. It is no surprise that a lot of it is in Democratic-run areas. These are the places that are quickest to get disgusted with him and his policies. So what is he doing that is constructive to fix it? Sending in his Federal goons in Seattle and Portland did not work, if that is your idea of him offering help. It just made everything worse, very quickly.
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Did you not read the title of the thread?

And I supplied you a link with all you need to know on the “why” to vote Trump. You just don’t want to educate yourself or your liberal eyes are too blinded.
 
Short Timer said:
The problem occurs when you support agendas to make you a minority. Are you ok with being a minority? Answer honestly please.

Yes, no or I don’t care?
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Yes, if it is an honest minority based on numbers. Sure, why not? You seem OK with all these others being a minority, under your thumb. That inequity is what I am talking about. If you are white, your ancestors came from somewhere else and helped build this country as we know it today. Part of that building process was taking it away from the people who already lived here, who were not white. We whites have no more legitimate claim to this place than anyone else who comes here to make a new life for themselves. America was born in diversity and cultural mix, with people from every corner of the Globe. And we are part of a Global community that constitutes our customers for the goods we produce. The kind of bigotry and rabid nationalism you are spouting is what leads to war or economic depression.
 
Burrapeg said:
Yes, if it is an honest minority based on numbers. Sure, why not? You seem OK with all these others being a minority, under your thumb. That inequity is what I am talking about. If you are white, your ancestors came from somewhere else and helped build this country as we know it today. Part of that building process was taking it away from the people who already lived here, who were not white. We whites have no more legitimate claim to this place than anyone else who comes here to make a new life for themselves. America was born in diversity and cultural mix, with people from every corner of the Globe. And we are part of a Global community that constitutes our customers for the goods we produce. The kind of bigotry and rabid nationalism you are spouting is what leads to war or economic depression.
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What about speaking a different language, say Spanish, are you ok with that too?
 
Burrapeg said:
Sure, if necessary. What's the big deal with that? My late wife was fluent in French and Spanish. I learned a little Spanish myself when I worked in Brownsville, TX for a few years.
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It’s obvious why you have no issues with open borders then. I appreciate your honesty.

Are you willing to support the influx of immigrants with the open border policy if “free” healthcare, “free” housing, ”free food” is given to them like it is now?
 
Not a big Trump fan but Ethnomasochism is worse.
Separate races/ethnicities cannot flourish in their own rite if forced to coexist in such close quarters as in America.
I want what's best for my people, but also what's best for others. Supremacy does not work, there will always be a revolution. I believe mutual segregation between races is the best option. Otherwise one will just dominate the other.
 
Short Timer said:
It’s obvious why you have no issues with open borders then. I appreciate your honesty.

Are you willing to support the influx of immigrants with the open border policy if “free” healthcare, “free” housing, ”free food” is given to them like it is now?
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I never said I agreed with all of that. I work hard just like anyone else and don't agree with handouts. But I also don't agree with immigration restrictions based simply on race or color or country of origin. Lots of immigrants are hard workers and capable of making a real contribution to this nation. Getting back to your question about language, Americans already don't speak the same English as the actual English do. It is a constantly evolving language, always has been, and it has evolved differently here than in the UK. So there is nothing special or sacred about it. It is already completely full of foreign words we have absorbed, and no harm done at all. There are many parts of England right now where, if you go there as an American and try to communicate, you will be regarded as speaking almost a foreign language. Even the English themselves have maybe two dozen common dialects, some of them very different from one another. So it is really silly to claim the English language as being that special. Americans have not been English since 1781 the year the rebellion was won.
 
Burrapeg said:
I never said I agreed with all of that. I work hard just like anyone else and don't agree with handouts. But I also don't agree with immigration restrictions based simply on race or color or country of origin.
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So why do you vote Democrat? They’re all about handouts.

Can you post a link to these immigration restrictions according to race and color?
 
Short Timer said:
@Burrapeg Are you seriously comparing a foreign language to an altered version of the English language?

You got no problem having Spanish as our language?
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Yes I am. English itself has evolved enough in recent centuries that the English spoken on the Mayflower would be totally unrecognizable to you. And we will never have Spanish as our sole language. But we will have it mixed in further, as it already is in many parts of the country. Same thing with French, if you spend any time in Louisiana. Many places there you will not hear English spoken at all until they have to answer you. And it is not even pure French like in France. Both have evolved apart. Cultural divesity is not something anyone can successfully resist. You can try but it is inevitable. You are culturally changing from your own immediate ancestors. We all are. The whole concept of WASP (white Anglo-Saxon, Protestant) speaking English is a true irony. The Angles and Saxons were neither of them English. They invaded England from Northern Europe. None of these people spoke English as you know it. And after the Norman conquest, the official language in England was actually French for a while. Many Brits are of Norman descent, which is French not AngloSaxon. People flooded into what is now America from every corner of the World, both in the beginniing and later at times like the California Gold Rush and thru Ellis Island. Very few of these people spoke English as you and I know it. Yet they built a unique nation, one all Americans of any racial descent can be proud of. When we all stand together and celebrate our diversity as a national strength, nothing else can stand against us, as shown in both World wars. What is happening now, this internal division and strife encouraged by Trump, is weakening this country not making it great. A country or a person can thump their own chest and say they are great but that is not how it works. Something or someone is great only when others agree it is so. And we are now a laughingstock globally. Trump is destroying our credibility and trashing the office of president. No other world leaders trust his word at this point. We are becoming more isolated from our allies through his inept lack of diplomacy. His tariffs, for example, do nothing to help our economy because it is us, not the Chinese, who pay the tariffs. It has bankrupted thousands of small and large American companies who depended on foreign goods or a foreign market for their product. We cannot survive as a nation, economically, without the give and take of foreign trade and the respect from foreign countries. And we will not survive as well internally either, by all our separate cultural groups continuing this in-fighting and hate mongering. We need to heal and come back together. We need someone harmless like Biden, even if he does absolutely nothing in office. Trump will give us four more years of exactly what you are seeing right now, with things getting worse and worse. Trump has had almost four years now to 'make America great', with the Senate on his side, and failed. Why would you think giving him a second chance is going to produce anything different? He has proved again and again that it is all about him and not what is good for America. The single fact of his draft-dodging was enough to turn me off. I lost seven close friends in Nam and this jerk got his millionaire dad to pay a doctor to say he has bone spurs.
 
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