Who the F is Daniel???

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THE WORLD IS FLAT!!! FLAT I SAY!! IF YOU DON'T KNOW THAT YET YOU HAVEN'T SAILED FAR ENOUGH!!!

Get out of your boxes and come sailing with me and my skidsteer. Then you'll see how over your heads my flat world is!!
 
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What you are demonstrating over and over as a step cut appears to be setting you up for a catastrophic failure when the forces needed to break a large amount of wood either cause a rope failure or hinge failure.

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SO then this IS NOT the cut you teach at arb canada.. gets back to the point that I invented this cut, which is no big deal, since it's just a common sense adaptation of the bore cut w/ back release.

FYI, when using the step cut there is no way the hinge will fail. NO WAY.. hinge will not move until the backcut releases.. the rope however is subject to breaking when over loaded.
 
professional arborists from all over the US and world, and we are all sitting in a little box... must be crowded in here
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On both your backleaners, the hinge failed. ON BOTH. Not so 100%, cut and dry. 20 degrees? By the look of the picture, looked about 41.37 degrees... I think mashing other other urban trees with broken trees is in bad taste(just an unprofessional, boxed-in opinion) Keep it up though, you're almost a level 4 scoutmaster!
 
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That cut in the video would require a skid steer to sever the mismatch. No wonder you don't want to use MA. It looks like you are justifying your skid steer. That felling cut would have operated the same if not better if you had used a traditional bore cut with a backstrap the same thickness as your hinge and no more than 3:1 to pull it over.

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This video shows the use for which I originally intended the step cut.. it allows me to keep my notch and hinge above the trunk flare, while allowing the final flush cut round (which turns into a half round) to be easily handled and chipped.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQ8syV5LVOE
 
I suppose you invented Russian Roulette, too?

I invented a running method where I skip twice, fall on my face, bounce up and run backwards for two steps, then film the whole thing and claim it is more efficient.

(Just a little tongue in cheek hyperbole for you.)
 
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Yoy Keep getting the story wrong Rob.
First of all, the only time I have ever shown a video of climbing underneath this cut, is when the top was tied off, butt heavy, in an adjacent tree.

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Several of your videos show you in a bucket parked under the cut with nothing tied off except your tag line. Do you really need to distinguish here? You are still in the fall zone.

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Secondly you said:
"... dangerous situations , gear limitations, and unneccesary risks. All of these things are evident in ALL of Daniel's videos. " I've shown the step cut used in falling tres in MANY videos... SO get your story straight.


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"... dangerous situations , gear limitations, and unneccesary risks. All of these things are evident in ALL of Daniel's videos. " doesn't refer to the step cut. It refers to "... dangerous situations , gear limitations, and unneccesary risks. All of these things are evident in ALL of Daniel's videos. "

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is this the cut you learned from arb canada?

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No. It's the cut I learned in diapers. Only with a ridiculus low back cut.
 
Zeb,
You posted that last comment..
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I suppose you invented Russian Roulette, too?

I invented a running method where I skip twice, fall on my face, bounce up and run backwards for two steps, then film the whole thing and claim it is more efficient.

(Just a little tongue in cheek hyperbole for you.)

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just a minute after my last post with the video link showing the step cut used to make handling the flush cut round easier. So I take it you haven't seen the video. PLease watch it and let me know if you still can see no benefit to the cut..
 
Daniel I give up....I'm glad you are really happy with your skills and I won't even bother to say anything about it any more. It's just not worth it :-(

sometimes you miss, sometimes you loose....

climb safe though
wouter
 
We need to concede. Nobody plays with their equipment like Daniel. He loves to pull on his mini. He doesn't ruffle the grass.
 
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...People that look at these cuts etc.. and say they are unsafe simply lack the experience and expertise to understand why that is not true. I keep getting it done. Once agian the only way for me to make that point is to say its over ALL your heads, and that of course makes me sound arrogant and pisses everyone off. I can live with that!

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This should answer the question in Chopper's OP. Daniel is a guy so wrapped up in his very moderate work experience that he thinks he's above and beyond.

It doesn't make you sound arrogant Daniel... It makes you sound socially underdeveloped and oblivious.

Most of us do non-standard things every week to solve problems. The difference is we don't shoot boring video and we don't claim fame and mastery at a job in which there ARE NO masters. The best of the best are still out there learning and working... Not wasting time trying to 'teach' on youtube or 'proving' points that have no value.
 
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Zeb,
You posted that last comment..
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I suppose you invented Russian Roulette, too?

I invented a running method where I skip twice, fall on my face, bounce up and run backwards for two steps, then film the whole thing and claim it is more efficient.

(Just a little tongue in cheek hyperbole for you.)

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just a minute after my last post with the video link showing the step cut used to make handling the flush cut round easier. So I take it you haven't seen the video. PLease watch it and let me know if you still can see no benefit to the cut..

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Watched it, then posted.

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If you want to learn something, start by thinking you know nothing and take it from there

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Good statement. I assume you put this as your signature because you feel its true, just maybe not for you.
 
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Zeb,
You posted that last comment..
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just a minute after my last post with the video link showing the step cut used to make handling the flush cut round easier. So I take it you haven't seen the video. PLease watch it and let me know if you still can see no benefit to the cut..

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Why do you need a smaller piece for the flush cut when there is a skidsteer there?
 
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome. Debating Daniel over his methods is insanity.

Daniel, I will keep you, your crew and your clients property in my prayers.
 
Holy balls. Best Daniel thread ever. So over the top im at a loss for words. Hope you don't kill anyone. Hope no one takes your word as gospel on another forum and hurts themselves either. Good gosh.
 
Well you have to think outside the box if your ego doesn't fit in it.

Why wouldn't a traditional notch and back cut work in that last video? It didn't look like it had a heavy lean in either direction, to boot it was just a spar with no crown weight so its a bit more predictable. Seemed a little too much. KISS, notches are like tools, theres a right one for a right situation, I don't go lugging up our 66 when I'm pruning, and I don't use a trigger notch when a traditional works just fine.

P.S Fire your ground guy, unless you like going for those rides. That or take smaller tops till he learns to control the ropes. I mean one or two rides is fun, but that whole montage was you getting whipped around or nearly having that whole limb swing into you and shatter.
 
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professional arborists from all over the US and world, and we are all sitting in a little box... must be crowded in here
crazy.gif

On both your backleaners, the hinge failed. ON BOTH. Not so 100%, cut and dry. 20 degrees? By the look of the picture, looked about 41.37 degrees... I think mashing other other urban trees with broken trees is in bad taste(just an unprofessional, boxed-in opinion) Keep it up though, you're almost a level 4 scoutmaster!

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You make the perfect point here.. YES you are stuck in the box if you can't see that the first hinge was designed to fail. WHy do you think I showed a pic of the failed hinge? As soon as the piece stood up enough to clear the tree it was hung-up in, it dropped harmlessly onto the lawn, just shy of the fence. Keeping the hinge in tact was going to lay the tree up in the ground anchor tree, or put it on the fence. The skid steer op. was instructed to pull until it cleared the first tree, then stop. If the hinge didn't fail on its own, I was planning on cutting the far corner of the hinge to drop it on the lawn.

Just another example of how I have to keep explaining such things to people who are so clueless, they don't get that that was the major point of video.

The second tree made it over the creek and did no damage. Given the condition of the hinge wood (which had maybe 2" of good wood on each corner) and the degree of backlean, I was happy with the result. Though in reviewing the tape, I think the tree could have made the lay if we had adjusted the angle of the pull line.

The point I was trying to make is that you could not even approach this job trying to fall it against the lean if you were planning on pulling by hand, but there is no point in trying to make logical arguments with you all.. You are stuck.. ANd I keep getting it done..
 
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Well you have to think outside the box if your ego doesn't fit in it.

Why wouldn't a traditional notch and back cut work in that last video? It didn't look like it had a heavy lean in either direction, to boot it was just a spar with no crown weight so its a bit more predictable. Seemed a little too much. KISS, notches are like tools, theres a right one for a right situation, I don't go lugging up our 66 when I'm pruning, and I don't use a trigger notch when a traditional works just fine.

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You make it sound like the step cut is more difficult than a traditional notch and backcut.. It's not.. It's actually easier. Once again you need someone to explain this to you because you are clueless. You've never tried the technique or you'd know better.
 
Whew, im glad there is an answer to everything (premeditated failed hinges, who woulda guessed, so perfect)... I strive one day to have 1/10 the knowledge that daniel does.
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Trying to reason with daniel is like herding cats... Impossible.
 
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Several of your videos show you in a bucket parked under the cut with nothing tied off except your tag line. Do you really need to distinguish here? You are still in the fall zone.

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I WAS NEVER IN THE DZ in any of my videos. Are you trying to say that one should never take a top out from a bucket?... What's the difference between staying in the bucket and dropping a top, which only has one way to go, and bringing the bucket down before calling for the pull, as long as the bucket is out of the DZ? Have you ever even worked from a bucket?. Another example of a totally mindless critique.. Literally a bunch of idiots...
 
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