White oak (embedded pics)

[No_Bivy]

I'll send you some sand bags for extra counterweight.cool

 

[Colin]

No, no... just make smaller lifts!

 

[RogerM]

Lumberjack,
You and your crew lived to do it again...good job,you got paid, you shared the job with us(thanks) Use any crane you want especially one with an operator you've worked with before and trust. Take good care of the 72" bar

 

[Cozmo]

Nice work junior. /forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif Is it just me or was that a really late day cause it looked pretty dark in the last photo.

 

[Lumberjack]

Yeah bucketeer, weather put us off near 5 hours after lunch, worked 45 minutes, then the crane went down for about an hour. We got done at 9, without delays we would have been done around 5, having the wood loaded and the crane hopefully packed back up. We spent an hour the next morning loading some of the wood, and an hour raking up.


Thanks Roger Used a 28 ton today, smallest crane I have available with a 360 degree load chart.

 

[Mark Chisholm]

I've used some very small ones. Even did a couple removales with a 9 ton! My favorite size for most would be the 28 ton- 38 ton catagory. Strong enough when close, but easy enough to get in some tight spots.

Here's a pic of a cottonwood tree I did two days before the ITCC. He was picking the wood with 120+- stick out. Small pieces were the name of the game.

 

[Mark Chisholm]

Here's the tight setup.

 

[Mark Chisholm]

Here's where it was growing.

 

[Mark Chisholm]

Here's the landing zone. This is why I chose to use this crane. Actually for the operator. The wood picks were small and we lost time there comparted to a larger crane, but not many operators could land the pieces of brush in that small of a zone! He didn't even break one branch on that Jap. Maple. That's where we made up time from using a different crane/operator.

 

[Mark Chisholm]

Here's a view from the top. This tree was a block or two from the ocean.

 

[Colin]

Ah HA!

 

[Mark Chisholm]

Ah HA? All I'm saying is that there are many decisions to make when choosing the right crane for a job. I also wouldn't hesitate to have brought in a 110 ton for that tree if I could've parked it in the same spot. I hate making more cuts than I need. Sometimes it just doesn't make sense to use a big crane and other times it is a waste of time and effort to avoid renting a big one.

I know some companies around here that won't rent a crane under 80 ton? I think they do this because they don't fully understand how to calculate properly or how to control each pick. So, go bigger and stay safe? Not fo me.

 

[Colin]

Bigger ain't always better.

 

[Mark Chisholm]

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Bigger ain't always better.

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I agree.

 

[frans]

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Here's the tight setup.

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Hey Mark,
Does your company have a release form in case of damaging a driveway from the weight of the crane?
I recently had to repave a driveway from cracking. The wheels just sank through the 40 year old concrete and caused big cracks...
I ate it on that job.
Frans

 

[Colin]

That IS touchy territory.

 

[Mark Chisholm]

We haven't yet. Tough call. Would a client hire us if we said that we wouldn't be held responsible for breaking something like their drive? I wonder. Though there are some very sad looking drives out there. Good question.

I once had a difficult tree to remove near a concrete drive. We had a tractor there, so I thoguht, why not dump the chips in the drive and flop the stick into the pile? We did. Then we loaded the chips with the tractor. It was way faster than rigging the 50' stick down. Later that year my "appretice" climber did the same thing. He heard what I did and figured it would work for him. The thing he did different was he spread the chips across the drive 2'-3' thick! Didn't work. We had to replace on section of concrete.

 

[Lumberjack]

We have a damage waiver signed before going across any paving with a crane. We also have a waiver on our contracts, which is signed before the job is started.

Glens also has a damage waiver (my perfered crane company)
that the customer signs.

I explain it to them, if they dont like it they can A: pay to have it done a different way or B: find someone else. To expensive for me to worry with.

Back on my first crane jobs, the operator didnt read the work order properly and drove across a parking pad he was suppose to straddle with his outriggers. Glens took responsability for it, and made it right (they just had to tear out the concrete, no biggy).

When I used a 175 ton, the crane backed into a concrete parking lot. Standing 15' from the crane, I could feel the concrete imploding... quite a weird/cool feeling. The cracks it left were small, customer was pleased with the job.

 

[Lumberjack]

Here is yesterday's job, used a 28 ton crane, got billed for 5.75 hours. 30 min drive each way, set the crane up twice, 30 minutes for lunch.


We hauled the trunk from the job, about 20k lbs of wood in a 30 yard box. The stump was placed beside the chips we blew, leaving them on site as well. The larger limbwood we didnt chip was laid in a pile onsite. The rakings left in a pile onsite to be burned by the owner. The place is a dog kennel, by the way.

When I cut the last of the trunk off the stump, the stump unexpectidly split in two pieces, one weighing 3k lbs, the other weighing 8. When it split my 088 got a bit stuck against the weight of the stump, 41" bar for size reference. no damage to the saw. We ground the few remaining roots left in about 10 minutes.

The bigger piece of stump, had to set it down then move the crane to set them near the chip pile.

 

[TreeCo]

Are you having to pay much to for those dumpsters and loads?

It looks like you are keeping busy. Way to go!