What is SRT?

I have been thinking of the definitions of single rope technique (SRT) & Floating False Crotch (FFC). I am curious as to what others think these mean.


SINGLE ROPE TECHNIQUE (SRT):
On page 44 of The Tree Cimber's Companion 2nd edition by Jeff Jepson,
He defines a 'Single Line Technique' as (and I quote): "The single line technique (SRT) also employs a static climbing line system and is used as a means of canopy access only"

So, even though the SRT system as defined by Mr. Jepson uses a single line to access a tree, you still do not use this system to work, or move about the canopy.
So would'nt this SRT system be more accurately described a Tree Entry Method (TEM)? I guess the abbreviation would be: SRTTEM.
(Does'nt really roll off of the tongue)

There are systems whereby you CAN work the canopy of a tree using only one side of a rope where the other end is attached/ tied off to either a branch overhead, or passed over a branch and brought down to the bottom of the tree and tied off.

The Uni-cender is one such system and the Rocker another coupled with various types of backups.
I am aware that these systems are not perfected and are awkward to use, nevertheless they are here and are sure to get better as new technology is developed.
So it seems to me that the term could be updated to reflect the fact that a single line can be used to ENTER the tree as well as WORK (prune/remove) the canopy.
So a SRT system maybe should be used to describe a general method of both entering the tree and working the canopy. Not one or the other.



FLOATING FALSE CROTCH (FFC): where you have a pulley attached to the end of a rope. The rope is either tied to the best/highest limb for working throughout the tree, OR is passed over that limb and the non-working end is tied to the base of the tree.
From this pulley rides your climb line. You work throughout the tree using your standard doubled rope climbing system. So in other words the floating pulley (false crotch) is a replacement for throwing your climb line over a limb. Weather you use a split tail, Machard Tresse, Lockjack etc. is illrelevent. The term FFC ONLY refers to a pulley or ring that is SUSPENDED from the tree.

This system can also be used as a rigging point to lower branches from.

The funny thing is, both of these systems also use a Single Rope Technique (SRT)

In my mind, SRT would be a great way to work a tree. One rope would be easier and lighter to drag around than two ends of a rope, and having the ability to move up and down a single rope using mechanical devices would elliminate alot of friction that develops with Doubled Rope Techniques.
However, I dont yet see the technology developed. The Rocker, the Trango Cinch, the GriGri, all those are examples of devices that can move up and down a single line, but both have problems for doing this in the tree world. Maybe the Uni-Cender 2 will have worked this out. Altho it is still only one device for Personal Fall Protection and currently safety protocol requires TWO different systems for Personal Fall Protection (backed up).



With the advent of a system to work off of a single line ONLY to move about the canopy of a tree, the broad definition (SRT) will become obsolete, In my opinion.

I am confidant that a true SRT system is on the horizon. At each trade show I attend, and with all the conversations I have had with manufacturers, this technology is a certainty, not a probability. All ready such systemes can be cobbeled together to work, not very well but they do work.

I welcome your input

frans
 
Gadsooks !!!!! Always thinking arn't you Frans. Look at all that you wrote. I'm confused , can you explain it again ?...Think I'll play my ... /forum/images/graemlins/guitarist.gif :while I think about this... /forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Ok , I thought about it ....Where did the term SRT come from in the fist place? I can only assume that maybe if we look back at the lineage of the term, it was probably from Rock climbing , caving..That sort of thing.

Single Rope Technique
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Single Rope Technique (SRT) is a method (or rather set of methods) used in caving and potholing to descend and ascend vertical drops ("pitches"). SRT is also used in roped access for building maintenance.

So if a rock climber or if your using srt for Building access, does this mean your not working off of it ? In my mind, wether rock climbin or Buildings , your still working off it just in a different fashion.

I didnt find anything stating that Srt was strictly access only and couldnt be worked off of , except for what you mentioned. Maybe we should call it WSRT...working single rope technique?...(WSS) working static system ?...Heck I dont know . /forum/images/graemlins/crazy.gif or maybe , we shuld just just keep it the same.SRT because there is know real specific definition that I found as to the limitation of SRT ....

Greg
 
Frans,

I'm digesting the nomenclature now, so I'll wait to comment.

You wrote:

Altho it is still only one device for Personal Fall Protection and currently safety protocol requires TWO different systems for Personal Fall Protection (backed up).

Let's be REALLY careful about bringing 'fall protection' into arbo discussions. As you know, we still are considered work positioning.

Apparently Knut is going to talk about FP for arbos at Augsburg. I hope that the talk will be in English or that I can talk with him. I'll carry water home to fill you in.
 
If the pulley is anchored at the base of the tree with a gri gri or like device wouldn't it make the system a floating one? We often use this set up (gri gri is backed up as well) when dealing with trees that are 90 + feet. It allows us to set the pulley lower down in the tree so that your climbing line will then be long enough to use and then raise the pulley to a higher position once you have entered the tree. This also makes coming down easier so that you don't have to recrotch, the groundie can just lower you safely when you are getting short on rope. I realize that a 200' rope would make none of this necessary,but not everyone carries one of those around.
 
I spoke with Greg and listened to his definition of a 'Floating' False Crotch.
He described a double whip tackle where the lower pulley 'floats' up and down according to how much you reeve it in, or out.
It does seem to me that this is a true definition of 'floating false crotch'.
I guess my set up of a pulley tied to the end of a rope would be a 'False Crotch'
 

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