Basswood
Carpal tunnel level member
- Location
- Long island
Lately it’s been sales reps, even the ones who used to work in production are fcking useless.
What Grinds Your Gears?
- Thread starter TreeVB
- Start date
- Location
- Little Egg Harbor
I leave my Protos unbuckled all the time on the ground lol. The tab on the nape pad is always enough to lock it to my head. If im climbing i always buckle it, thats what its there for
- Location
- Little Egg Harbor
Guys on a blower not paying attention to who or what is more than 3 feet away from them. Full blast blowing dust in your eyes when your trying to rake or pick up piles. Worse yet when the foreman is talking to a client and they blow full throttle towards them
TreeVB
Branched out member
- Location
- Boise, Idaho
One could easily argue that “thats what it’s there for” could also be applied to the strap , just saying.
RyanCafferky
Been here a while
- Location
- Hood River, Oregon
#3 Is someone using the blower before the job is done.
#2 People cutting wood with a dull saw.
#1 Tree service owners/salesmen with no clue of how the work is to be accomplished. Which usually leads to the phrase “can‘t you just” being used in relation to things I am doing. I have said many times that those are the three most dangerous words in our industry.
#2 People cutting wood with a dull saw.
#1 Tree service owners/salesmen with no clue of how the work is to be accomplished. Which usually leads to the phrase “can‘t you just” being used in relation to things I am doing. I have said many times that those are the three most dangerous words in our industry.
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WTF???!!!
AdkEric
Branched out member
- Location
- Adirondacks
I guess he really didn't want to stare at a brush pile any longer than he had to.
Fivepoints
Carpal tunnel level member
- Location
- East of Huntsville, AL
People that don't/won't keep control of their dogs. We have been doing some work at an apartment complex lately. We had a lady walk her dog up to our brush pile and pee on it. Another one yesterday was running loose around our work area. We had another one the other day that someone let out run up to where we were working an leave a big pile of craps.
evo
Been here much more than a while
- Location
- My Island, WA
Todays:
Client: "This is a small job, I just want this pruned back and cleaned up"
Arborist: "Is this tree on your property?"
Client: "I'm sorry I'm not an arborist, Im a engineer, I just want it cleaned up" "I don't know, if you stand on this rock and look that way"
Arborist standing on rock: "I'm a arborist, and I don't know how to make you happy, I need to know what you mean by 'cleaned up'" (what I wanted to say is "I'm an arborist, not psychic"). "Ok, Im looking that way but I have no idea where the other property corner is"
Client: "The property corner is over there"
Arborist: "You said this tree is on the property line or just over it, why don't you just ask permission from the neighbor?"
Client: "She gave me permission 4 years ago when we moved in, we never did anything. Now she died last year, and I think her son owns the property"
Arborist: "Alright, I'll give you a quote labeled as 'pending permission from neigbor'"
Client: "ok come back here and stand on this rock, now look that way, somewhere by that fence is the property corner. I want that tree pruned way back, it's on my neighbors property"
Arborist: "Do you have that neighbors permission?"
Client: "No I don't"
This occurred on three of four property lines...
Then:
There is a cluster development where 6 little houses were built on a acer of land, all shoved within feet of the property line so a court yard can be in the center. The neighbor got advice from a prominent nursery owner to plant a row of leyland cypress trees along the fence line for screen.
Fast forward 25 years.....
Arborist works for clustered development getting swallowed by leyland. All house owners want the leyland limbs stubbed off at the property line. Arborist refuses without permission from the tree owner, all residences state the owner will not allow the tree to be touched, so Arborist makes some smaller reduction cuts with ladder and pole pruners. On going for the past 6 years....
So today I get a call from the tree owner for a quote to remove the trees. She received a letter from the HOA's lawyer in Seattle that she will be held liable for any and all tree related damages.
I explained I had no idea as I haven't worked for that HOA for 2 years but Im aware of the issue of these trees, she went from sweet to yelling at me for not calling/emailing/or knocking on her door. I told her again I have clue or idea about the lawyer but these trees want to be 120' x 80' wide..
She was alarmed by the side of the trees, "But why did XXXXX (nursery owner recommend them?)". And continued going from super sweet sheltering me with her umbrella, to yelling at me, to super sweet again... I explained that I am not on the clock or being paid to knock on neighbors doors to tell them to cut their trees down... She then yelled more for me not knocking or calling her to tell her to cut her trees....
Client: "This is a small job, I just want this pruned back and cleaned up"
Arborist: "Is this tree on your property?"
Client: "I'm sorry I'm not an arborist, Im a engineer, I just want it cleaned up" "I don't know, if you stand on this rock and look that way"
Arborist standing on rock: "I'm a arborist, and I don't know how to make you happy, I need to know what you mean by 'cleaned up'" (what I wanted to say is "I'm an arborist, not psychic"). "Ok, Im looking that way but I have no idea where the other property corner is"
Client: "The property corner is over there"
Arborist: "You said this tree is on the property line or just over it, why don't you just ask permission from the neighbor?"
Client: "She gave me permission 4 years ago when we moved in, we never did anything. Now she died last year, and I think her son owns the property"
Arborist: "Alright, I'll give you a quote labeled as 'pending permission from neigbor'"
Client: "ok come back here and stand on this rock, now look that way, somewhere by that fence is the property corner. I want that tree pruned way back, it's on my neighbors property"
Arborist: "Do you have that neighbors permission?"
Client: "No I don't"
This occurred on three of four property lines...
Then:
There is a cluster development where 6 little houses were built on a acer of land, all shoved within feet of the property line so a court yard can be in the center. The neighbor got advice from a prominent nursery owner to plant a row of leyland cypress trees along the fence line for screen.
Fast forward 25 years.....
Arborist works for clustered development getting swallowed by leyland. All house owners want the leyland limbs stubbed off at the property line. Arborist refuses without permission from the tree owner, all residences state the owner will not allow the tree to be touched, so Arborist makes some smaller reduction cuts with ladder and pole pruners. On going for the past 6 years....
So today I get a call from the tree owner for a quote to remove the trees. She received a letter from the HOA's lawyer in Seattle that she will be held liable for any and all tree related damages.
I explained I had no idea as I haven't worked for that HOA for 2 years but Im aware of the issue of these trees, she went from sweet to yelling at me for not calling/emailing/or knocking on her door. I told her again I have clue or idea about the lawyer but these trees want to be 120' x 80' wide..
She was alarmed by the side of the trees, "But why did XXXXX (nursery owner recommend them?)". And continued going from super sweet sheltering me with her umbrella, to yelling at me, to super sweet again... I explained that I am not on the clock or being paid to knock on neighbors doors to tell them to cut their trees down... She then yelled more for me not knocking or calling her to tell her to cut her trees....
Treezybreez
Been here much more than a while
- Location
- Lancaster, SC
Sounds like she's bipolar on meth. I'd steer clear of that job.
- Location
- Little Egg Harbor
No i meant that the chinstrap itself is there for work at height, as an extra measure of securing it to your head. On the ground its really not neccesary. On the flipside it can also be considered a hazard not buckled
. Guess i should take it off
evo
Been here much more than a while
- Location
- My Island, WA
Neighbor who allowed access, just asked for a load of gravel to fill his potholes. I can go on a long rant about the assine 3 day job, but I rather eat a gummie and drink a beer.. We don’t deal with many oaks, holy fuck a different animal all together 
Reach
Been here much more than a while
- Location
- Atglen, PA
Don’t you just love neighbors? Oaks are fun, aren’t they? And nice and heavy. Oak is one of the most common trees in this area, so we get plenty of practice picking them up.
That looks like some great work though, and a real challenge!
evo
Been here much more than a while
- Location
- My Island, WA
My contract was just to remove the failed portion off the building. I referred three other companies with spider lifts to remove the standing part as it had to be rigged down. But she added on cleaning up their mess too. I’m paying out of pocket to have the butt logs milled, and hauling them out too.
Sucks cause the tree could have been saved. My tree mentor who died in a work accident cabled this tree. Well’ honestly the cabling was insufficient, but it also was NEVER maintained for 12 years. Cable failed, a week later a big windstorm hit and the tree opened up 3 inches. Gave a quote for a emergency cabling, and the client wanted a full estimate, and removal estimate from the company who referred me to the job.., I know what I billed, but clueless on the emergency spider lift side of the tree. BUT I do know my side of it is not a small bill!
Also, insurance is only covering the half on the building (?!?!)
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Reach
Been here much more than a while
- Location
- Atglen, PA
It’s always sad when things like that happen, losing a tree for no good reason like that. I’m not surprised the insurance company only will pay for half the removal, that’s about normal. A bit of creative writing in the quote can sometimes get around that, but not always. Glad your part went well at least though.
flushcut
Been here much more than a while
- Location
- Delavan, WI
If you want more practice in oaks that’s pretty much all we do this time of year.
flushcut
Been here much more than a while
- Location
- Delavan, WI
Customers who change their mind last minute. So they get charged more. Not really grinding gears but when it’s a 40” DBH bur oak that was suppose to be a dump in the woods that is now a rig down into the yard. Oh and btw the 8”DBH walnut POS that grew up thru the middle that would have been in the clear if it was flopped the other way is now in the way of everything and staying.
Customer “ why is the bill six times the estimate?” Me “you changed your mind last minute”.
Customer “ why is the bill six times the estimate?” Me “you changed your mind last minute”.
