what do you think?
- Thread starter RemovalWizzard
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I did read the first post, and got the point.
After talking with many people about cabling and bracing concepts and the dynamics that are involved, I would be cautious about pulling things together. The loads generated are HUGE!!! Do some calculations about the weight of the tree parts then work through some of the forces/loads being generated by the lever of the split stem.
TreeCo...what is gained by pulling the tree together rather than supporting it in place? Don't get argumentative, I don't see a value but I would like to know if I'm missing something.
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There would be nothing worng with supporting it in one place but as we removed more wood from the tree, the massive crack gradually became smaller, and the supporting straps/chain became loose. That is the reason for retentioning. Us tightening the straps had little do do with the movement of the crack, we just didnt want the support loose. The fiddle blocks and grcs just allowed us to add extra support + get the most gain out of tightening the straps so we could use the grcs for lowering.
I did read the first post, and got the point.
After talking with many people about cabling and bracing concepts and the dynamics that are involved, I would be cautious about pulling things together. The loads generated are HUGE!!! Do some calculations about the weight of the tree parts then work through some of the forces/loads being generated by the lever of the split stem.
TreeCo...what is gained by pulling the tree together rather than supporting it in place? Don't get argumentative, I don't see a value but I would like to know if I'm missing something.
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There would be nothing worng with supporting it in one place but as we removed more wood from the tree, the massive crack gradually became smaller, and the supporting straps/chain became loose. That is the reason for retentioning. Us tightening the straps had little do do with the movement of the crack, we just didnt want the support loose. The fiddle blocks and grcs just allowed us to add extra support + get the most gain out of tightening the straps so we could use the grcs for lowering.
- Location
- Nashville, TN
well stated!
TreeCo
Carpal tunnel level member
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TreeCo...what is gained by pulling the tree together rather than supporting it in place? I don't see a value but I would like to know if I'm missing something.
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I think as the tree is pulled back together it gains resistance to rotational forces on each stem, especially at the start of the job. Even though the rigging is holding the two sides from further splitting the chain binder is not adding a lot of strength against twisting forces due to it's figure eight shaped lacing. It may lessen rotational forces if each stem is kept balanced as it is dismantled.
The attached diagram is a top view.
TreeCo...what is gained by pulling the tree together rather than supporting it in place? I don't see a value but I would like to know if I'm missing something.
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I think as the tree is pulled back together it gains resistance to rotational forces on each stem, especially at the start of the job. Even though the rigging is holding the two sides from further splitting the chain binder is not adding a lot of strength against twisting forces due to it's figure eight shaped lacing. It may lessen rotational forces if each stem is kept balanced as it is dismantled.
The attached diagram is a top view.
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Riggs
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- Location
- Bryn Mawr , Pa.
First off , nice job .
I don't like putting straps around a trunk like(the picture in the first post) that because it seems that they shift too much. Tie a tree up how ever you want to make you feel better , IMO you can't spend too much time securing a tree. Also "dream teams" are cool but , you know the saying , too many cooks spoil the brew. Keep at it , bump your price up a little , 11 K and three companies walked away . Don't be afraid to charge for trees like that,especially if it was cracked for a while and they ignored it . Someone would have been applying for a loan if I did that tree. maybe 11k in Alanta is 20k on the Main Line , what do I know .
I don't like putting straps around a trunk like(the picture in the first post) that because it seems that they shift too much. Tie a tree up how ever you want to make you feel better , IMO you can't spend too much time securing a tree. Also "dream teams" are cool but , you know the saying , too many cooks spoil the brew. Keep at it , bump your price up a little , 11 K and three companies walked away . Don't be afraid to charge for trees like that,especially if it was cracked for a while and they ignored it . Someone would have been applying for a loan if I did that tree. maybe 11k in Alanta is 20k on the Main Line , what do I know .
Very impressive job guys.
- Location
- Lansing, NY
From what you all walked into and the total outcome of the job you all did a great job.
