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I really doubt it jamin. That guy looked like a fool. And who would hire a landscaper to do a tree removal? Wouldn't you want an arborist? News people I tell you!
 
No license it says.

No crime?

One thing worth persuing, is going to the person who hired them first. Sometimes the services lied about having a license, and if so, that would be fraud. Then the law can sink their teeth into them.

Sounds like this guy is history in the town.
 
I've got a question for which I have no answer.

If the other homeowner hired this guy and he had no license. Could the other homeowner be liable in any fashion for getting the "ball" of destruction rolling?

Possible? Ever happened?
 
rule number one, READ THE WORK ORDER!

rule number two, If you don't have the work order DON'T DO THE WORK!

Rule number three, when in doubt, STOP!

Rule number 4, did I mention the WORK ORDER!
 
Rick is right. Work orders are the key for communicating to crew memebers.

I have created quote sheets that will have a dual purpose. They become work orders (as I'm sure many do the same).

Here are what mine look like. Feel free to copy any of my ideas or lay out. You'll see I eliminated the need to write down too much stuff. Because I put the content already in the sheet. I print carbonless copies in my office. The white copy is for the customer for a better presentation.
 

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Hey Jamin-

Nice quote sheet, and thanks for offering to let people borrow your work.

As a point of protection, what about terms of payment, signatures to authorize the work, as well as them signing off on ownership of the trees? I like having a final sign-off (and try to get it signed, but doesn't happen always) for some amount of protection so that I don't have to make a repeat trip because they have had more leave fall in the autumn that they want cleaned up, or if someone trips on something on the lawn, like a cone, which has fallen after we leave.

I pay for NCR (non carbon record, I think), giving the top (ink) copy to the customer for appearance and faxability (commercial people sometimes need to send to a remote office for approval, rare case). I guess you have special paper. How much does it cost?

I'll attach mine, and accept suggestions for the next print order. If anyone like anything on there, use it.
 

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I really doubt it jamin. That guy looked like a fool. And who would hire a landscaper to do a tree removal? Wouldn't you want an arborist? News people I tell you!

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Most people don't understand what an arborist is, even with Arbor Day and all.

They want a tree removed cheaply. They just want it gone without breaking anything and without a mess. Even "trimming", a word I try to avoid, favoring "pruning", work is not always seen as that complicated. You know, just take a little off all around so it looks like the strip mall trees, round. A little haircut.

I've been trying to find a good one-liner, funny retort to the "haircut". Anyone got one? Maybe, "You show me which hairs you want cut, otherwise, how about proper pruning based on tree biology and tree health for longterm health". Maybe that's it. Royalty payments for its copyrighted use can be made through PayPal.
 
An intelligent and informed client chose me over the rest of the herd in town, saying " I want the work to be like a good hair cut.. in other words, I don't want it to be obvious that any work was done"
 
Seems like a consulting arborist would serve purpose in this situation to put a value on the removed tree.

$5K,$10K,15K? looked like a big old silver maple to me.

Then the landscape company should put at least that value in the new landscape.

Damn I'd be raging pissed.
 
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These people involved could go after the comp. with no lisc. with the better buss. bureau and basically throw his jewels in a frying pan and have a day with him.

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Except a dude like that probably doesn't have two nickels to rub together so the lawsuit would amount to a big hassle with little or no payoff.
 
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Hey Jamin..I cant open that file.
I have Adobe and its updated.
Peace

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Jesse,

Jamin's quote sheet is a doc file, that is a Word document. Adobe will not work on it. You need Microsoft Word.
 
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As a point of protection, what about terms of payment, signatures to authorize the work, as well as them signing off on ownership of the trees?

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I agree with you. You're all about business
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I think I'll add terms of payment on my sheets. I feel as if a verbal agreement is fine to do work on their property/trees. It is fine with me to do with this for a mechanic, roofer, plumer, etc... I guess because the jobs are, for the most part, small. But, I can see a good reason for signing a contract for large jobs. My HOA jobs are that way... You got me thinking Sean.


As you can see I'm really pushing the idea of "image branding" with my customers. I find it interesting when a customer will say, "Well I had me trees pruned a couple of years ago..." I ask, "Do you remember who it was?" They ususally answer in the negative. The same goes for receiving bids for work. So, I set out a plan to never be forgotten. I also have a packet of information I give my customers which is placed inside a colored manla folder. On that folder I have a sticker with my logo and website. Heck, the title page of the packet inside has my logo and website. So, at the very least, the customer would have seen my image 3 times with their bid. --Yes, I'm a little OCD.
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I pay for NCR (non carbon record, I think)

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I use Xerox 3R12420 "Carbonless" sheets. I just have an ink jet printer, so the paper is "ink jet friendly." 2500 copies for $100 dollars.


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I'll attach mine, and accept suggestions for the next print order. If anyone like anything on there, use it.

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Sean, as you can see I think image branding is important.
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I think you should get creative and think of ways to brand your logo into someone's head.
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And for the sake of the conversation...

For the most part I'm with my guys driving to job sites, so I shouldn't go to the wrong place and work on a wrong tree... However, when I send out my guys, I'm using the existing estimate sheet/work order and printing a map on the other side. This once again is a redundant procedure to make sure they are at the right place.

I started this idea when I had a newbie from out of state and he didn't know the area. And after this news, I'm going to stick with it.
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