Video: Good shoot'n

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Video: Good shoot\'n

4 precision drops no worries, featuring the 1/4 cut technique, we only roped one of the drops.

Oh, they're palms and we used foam too. Still, many wouldn't have tried it especially the last one we did ... and not a thing broken. Check it out.

3.48 mins and 18.61MB in wmv with a rockin soundtrack.

http://www.palmtreeservices.com.au/video/goodshootn.wmv

Have fun. /forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
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nice felling saw /forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif

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Yeah, that's the old ms200 (palm saw) with a new carby, goes like a bat of hell now and ideal for 1/4 cut.

I try to limit the saws I use on palms due to corrosion and that's the oldest in the fleet now with a new one backing it up ... the other is the ms440 for cutting up but a little to big for the 1/4 cut ... and the new MS250, well hey, why blunt 3 saws! /forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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Great video and tunes as always!
I want to critique the felling ... if that's ok? /forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif
The felling in my opinion would be better accomplished by boring the hinge to allow for the wedge in the center of the cut or use a felling bar in place of the wedge.
The wedge being used appears to be a steel splitting wedge?
I've never cut a palm but would it stay on the stump if you used an open face notch to eliminate the bouncing?
 
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Steve, palms dont burn ... maybe in a blast furnace but they just rot away ... sort of like compressed lawn clippings.

Kevin, hmmm, palms most likely would snap, they're not like wood for holding hinges to the deck.

Regarding boring the hinge... I think you are thinking bore the hinge and come back toward the back of the palm leaving a strap, then insert wedges in bore ... apply a tap or two then cut the strap ... yes/no?

If that is what you had in mind I wouldn't do it, too dodgey, 1/4 cut is way safer and the wedge pressure is applied further from the hinge. It's standard felling procedure for trees where the dia wont let you get a wedge behind the bar whilst cutting.

Let me know, I can maybe demo but I'll need to have plenty of room for a busted hinge and backward fall.

Or were you thinking bore a bar width straight thru the guts into the notch (at 90 degrees to the notch)... bang a wedge in, then cut out both sides up to the hinge .. yes/no?

If that is what you had in mind it's similar strategy but more work, more cuts, 1/4 cut much easier and quicker for same result.

Oh, they're aluminium high taper wedges, about double the taper of a Stihl wedge. /forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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Ekka, boring the hinge (bore a bar width straight thru the guts into the notch), you bore through the hinge to allow the wedge to be driven straight through on a small tree.
It isn't more cuts, you cut the notch as you did then make the felling cut or back cut leaving a sufficient hinge then bore the hinge and drive in the wedge tripping the tree.
Give it a go just remember to always leave hinge wood or ...hinge fiber /forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif and then bore one bar width straight through the hinge leaving two tabs of wood for the remaining hinge.
The last palm in the video went to the left of center and the reason was due to the wedge being driven in off center.
When you do that it lifts the tree on one side causing the holding wood to break prematurely on the wedge side which causes the tree to turn away from the intended lay.
 
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Ahh, I dont get what you mean, you'll have to do a diagram. And show what you do in what order including insertion of the wedge. The trees aren't big enough in dia to allow insertion of a wedge behind the bar.

Also, none of the palms went anywhere off centre but bang on target, exactly in line with the notch. The quarter cut allows you to back the tree up with a wedge before committing to the hinge cut. If you have a wind or slight back leaner the tree is supported by the wedge before the last 1/4 cut to the hinge is made.

The last palm I felled was between fence posts and a light plus past the concrete edge, there was no room for error or allowance for roll/bounce. I 1/4 cut that one too and it was bang dead on... bullseye.

The one prior was where the frond got close to the gutter, that too was bang on target, bullseye! This was the third palm felled and the camera was not inline with the fall, perhaps if the tripod was moved over 6' to the right you would see that the head landed dead centre to the gap, but even where it is take a close look ... it's in the middle of the gap between the brick surround of the tree on the right and the brick BBQ.
 
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Back leaners and wind will present another problem, I would opt for a rope to secure those.
The attachment shows a hinge bore.
A felling bar works well on small trees as well.
 

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