unknown spruce?

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the branch is dried here, but you can see the very upright leaves with rounded tips, only slightly blueish when fresh, amidst a stand of blue spruce, someone suggested a japanese variety? (in connecticut)...
 

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no i'm not sure... and i think it might be abies magnifica aka red fir, not native around here but seemingly the fir with the upright and rounded needles...thanks for the lead!
 
Are the needles flat and CANT be rolled between your fingers, or more rounded/square and CAN be rolled between your fingers?

Are there any white stripes on the lower half of the leaf? 1 or 2 if so?
 
There are some higher elevation (6500) mtns here in TN/NC that have spruce & fir mix forests. Some the needles look very similar like red/black spruce & frasier fir. I quit looking at the needles to ID and just look at the bark to tell if it is a fir or spruce.

In general, spruce has that corn flake platy look just like norway spruce and fir is more smooth, lenticel looking bark more like a cherry.

I had high hopes for growing white fir here in my makeshift tree farm, but the hot summer fried them. I really like the look of white fir.

My dawn redwoods grew 3-4ft in one year.
 
The needles are def. flat and can't be rolled so it is a fir. Also we noticed a strong "orangy" smell when cutting (my buddy did not like the scent, i did) which I have just discovered is typical to some firs.

there is no white beneath the leaves just pale green: so that fact when added to the very rounded leaf tips has me perplexed, as I find nothing to match it in any of the numerous tree id resources.

I did find some pics of abies concolor (white fir) with the upright needles, like the abies magnifica (red fir). the abies magnifica is also known as the silver tip fir, which when I told my buddy about that he said "that makes sense because it did have silvery tips". unfortunately the bark and the rest of the tree is in a million tiny pieces!
 

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