Twisted line

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jambrose

I'M sure this has been discussed before, but withthe climbing knot I'm using my rope gets super twisted to the point where I have to stop and untangle... Any suggestions?
 
What kind of hitch are you using, what kind of rope, and how do you store it? Different knots will cause the rope to hockle if the left and right twisting influence on the rope isn't balanced, the VT is a good example of that.
 
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Climb srt.

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Having just recently made the switch from DdRT to SRT I will second that thumbs up. Made my life so much easier. Is there a button for infinite thumbs ups?
 
Yep, SRT makes that much less of a problem but in the mean time, you can try reversing the coils on your VT each climb.
I almost always stretch my rope out before bagging it even though it takes an extra minute or two.
 
try you knot on the ground. then tune it: meaning look at how the rope twist or doesn't twist when going through the knot. then tune the twist out by adjusting the length of hitch eye 2 eye vs. braids vs. coils vs. diameter of hitch cord vs. type of hitch cord vs. type of rope vs. body weight vs. climbing style vs. expectations of the performance of the hitch vs. expected lifetime of climbing hitch vs. expected lifetime of rope vs. expected "feel" of hitch. once all variables are right with your system DON'T UNTIE IT. except for once a week to inspect it. on a new cord it takes me about an hour or two to tune the length exactly right then about thirty mins to tune the hitch after that

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also if you climb dry crotch try and find the same type of tree and crotch you normally climb in and tune from there same with friction savers try to use what ever you are going to use in the tree on the ground so everything will be the same. all hitches react differently to different false crotches. with each variance the friction at the hitch changes drastically
 
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I'M sure this has been discussed before, but withthe climbing knot I'm using my rope gets super twisted to the point where I have to stop and untangle... Any suggestions?

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Use a bucket truck!

All joking aside... When you tie your hitch, don't add twist to the cordage as you do so. After your hitch is tied, gently weight the system and slightly compress the hitch by pulling STRAIGHT down. Do not add any twist or torque with your hand. Watch how the rope below the hitch behaves. Does the pattern stay in line? Or does it twist? If it twists, you either have pre-existing twist in the line, or you have added twist into the cordage as you tied the hitch.

That is a good starting point.

Once you are climbing... All climbers have a tendency to grab their hitches a certain way, and also twist their hitches a certain way. It's a natural habit and also depends upon which hand we grab the hitch with. As you descend, watch your rope. If it tends to twist clockwise as you look down at your tail, try twisting your hitch the opposite direction with your hand. The rope will now twist counter-clockwise. And vice versa. If the twist is being imparted by the climber, correcting it may be as simple as training yourself to pull straight down instead of the natural tendency to torque with your hand as you compress the hitch. If counteracting the rope twist takes a lot of effort and opposite torquing with your hand, then you either have a hitch that is not tied neutrally, or you have a bunch of pre-existing twist in the line.
 
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