Tree Motion Saddle
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- Rannoch, Scotland
Leon
The price for treeMOTION in Europe is within the existing range for harnesses. It is one of the more expensive, but not the most expensive (GBP195, Euro295).
The US price is so high because of import taxes and transport costs, both unfortunate facts of life......
Perhaps we should have a second manufacturing base in the US? Maybe if the interest is big enough....
Chris
Treemagineers - all for the trees and none for a fall!
The price for treeMOTION in Europe is within the existing range for harnesses. It is one of the more expensive, but not the most expensive (GBP195, Euro295).
The US price is so high because of import taxes and transport costs, both unfortunate facts of life......
Perhaps we should have a second manufacturing base in the US? Maybe if the interest is big enough....
Chris
Treemagineers - all for the trees and none for a fall!
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Lazarus3? Let's face it Chris, if there's anyone on Treebuzz that hasn't heard of TreeFlex yet they must just have Logged In for the first time!
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Relax Chris, you'll have the stage at expo. We don't have to agree on everything, but we do hope you have a safe journey and a good time at the show. I've no intention of raining on anyone's parade, and I'm sure Chris didn't.
Lazarus3? Let's face it Chris, if there's anyone on Treebuzz that hasn't heard of TreeFlex yet they must just have Logged In for the first time!
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Relax Chris, you'll have the stage at expo. We don't have to agree on everything, but we do hope you have a safe journey and a good time at the show. I've no intention of raining on anyone's parade, and I'm sure Chris didn't.
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Lazarus3? Let's face it Chris, if there's anyone on Treebuzz that hasn't heard of TreeFlex yet they must just have Logged In for the first time!
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Relax Chris, you'll have the stage at expo. We don't have to agree on everything, but we do hope you have a safe journey and a good time at the show. I've no intention of raining on anyone's parade, and I'm sure Chris didn't.
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Lazarus2 and Chris Cowell - have you both used your respective harnesses in a work situation for at least 6 months 5 days a week 4 to 5 hours a day?
Carrying out a wide variety of jobs eg. large tree pruning operations/distmantling operations where you could spend 7/8 hours in the tree per day?
In all weather situations?
Over the last 12 years I have followed the evolution of tree harnesses very closely, I have tried many different harnesses from europe and the u.s.
In order to give a worthwhile opinion of a harness - comfort/durability/practicality.
I have set the testing time of 6 months.
The only harness that was impossible to wear for more than a week in treework was the petzl navaho- an utterly diabolical harness in all respects.
Good luck with your harness.
I look forward to reviewing them on this forum over the next couple of years.
Thanks guys.
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Lazarus3? Let's face it Chris, if there's anyone on Treebuzz that hasn't heard of TreeFlex yet they must just have Logged In for the first time!
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Relax Chris, you'll have the stage at expo. We don't have to agree on everything, but we do hope you have a safe journey and a good time at the show. I've no intention of raining on anyone's parade, and I'm sure Chris didn't.
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Lazarus2 and Chris Cowell - have you both used your respective harnesses in a work situation for at least 6 months 5 days a week 4 to 5 hours a day?
Carrying out a wide variety of jobs eg. large tree pruning operations/distmantling operations where you could spend 7/8 hours in the tree per day?
In all weather situations?
Over the last 12 years I have followed the evolution of tree harnesses very closely, I have tried many different harnesses from europe and the u.s.
In order to give a worthwhile opinion of a harness - comfort/durability/practicality.
I have set the testing time of 6 months.
The only harness that was impossible to wear for more than a week in treework was the petzl navaho- an utterly diabolical harness in all respects.
Good luck with your harness.
I look forward to reviewing them on this forum over the next couple of years.
Thanks guys.
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- Home of the New Jersey Devils
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The only harness that was impossible to wear for more than a week in treework was the petzl navaho- an utterly diabolical harness in all respects.
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I agree. And the Petzl butt strap model was a pain as well, and took five minutes to get in and out of.
There are others that are "unwearable" as well. Heck, my first harness wouldn't last 1/2 a day for me now.
The only harness that was impossible to wear for more than a week in treework was the petzl navaho- an utterly diabolical harness in all respects.
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I agree. And the Petzl butt strap model was a pain as well, and took five minutes to get in and out of.
There are others that are "unwearable" as well. Heck, my first harness wouldn't last 1/2 a day for me now.
- Location
- Ontario, Canada
I have a V2 BOD and don't mind wearing it.
I bought it for the built in harness.
The only thing I don't care for is the single attachment point for use with a double rope system.
I bought it for the built in harness.
The only thing I don't care for is the single attachment point for use with a double rope system.
Lumberjack
Branched out member
The biggest thing I don't like about the price is that Sherrill announced that the price wouldn't be more than $400 at the ITCC, now its $489, $212 more than the Bfly II, $61 dollars less than a MS200T.
I do like the saddle however
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I do like the saddle however
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- Location
- United Kingdom
I think exchange rates are in our favour and these may have changes since ITCC but not sure.
We usully look jealously at the prices you guys buy gear for, in our minds we exchange into pounds and think how cheap everything is over there. Of course we get stung by import and other taxes too, but in this instance it seems its going to be the otherway round.
We usully look jealously at the prices you guys buy gear for, in our minds we exchange into pounds and think how cheap everything is over there. Of course we get stung by import and other taxes too, but in this instance it seems its going to be the otherway round.
- Location
- healdsburg, CA
Lazarus2 and Chris Cowell?
Any news on the TreeMotion?
Will it actually be available at TCIA in Baltimore?
Any production problems, labor shortages, quality oversights, or other malaise which may delay the release of your new saddle?
I am looking forward to buying one and hope like heck to be able to pick it up at the show in Baltimore.
Any news?
Thanks
Frans
Any news on the TreeMotion?
Will it actually be available at TCIA in Baltimore?
Any production problems, labor shortages, quality oversights, or other malaise which may delay the release of your new saddle?
I am looking forward to buying one and hope like heck to be able to pick it up at the show in Baltimore.
Any news?
Thanks
Frans
Re: Lazarus2 and Chris Cowell?
All said and done, I don't think anyone needs to spend 489 dollars on a saddle to work in. There are plenty of saddles rugged and comfortable enough to work all day long in for many years. The fact of the matter is that I love to climb. I climb for fun all the time, and if I did buy this saddle I probably wouldn't even use it at work. I would treat it like a little present to myself to use during "play time" only, i.e. no cutting tools. The best thing about this is that a porche is like what, between 50 and 100 thousand dollars and riding around in it you just get fatter. I think I will be looking to buy a treemotion saddle as soon as I have the money set aside for a new toy.
All said and done, I don't think anyone needs to spend 489 dollars on a saddle to work in. There are plenty of saddles rugged and comfortable enough to work all day long in for many years. The fact of the matter is that I love to climb. I climb for fun all the time, and if I did buy this saddle I probably wouldn't even use it at work. I would treat it like a little present to myself to use during "play time" only, i.e. no cutting tools. The best thing about this is that a porche is like what, between 50 and 100 thousand dollars and riding around in it you just get fatter. I think I will be looking to buy a treemotion saddle as soon as I have the money set aside for a new toy.
- Location
- healdsburg, CA
Re: Lazarus2 and Chris Cowell?
When you are in business, there are taxes to pay. Equipment purchases are a tax deduction.
Also, most tree companies gross enough so that spending even as little as $10,000/ year is easily done.
Heck, I know contractors who spend more than that on the Golf Club membership, bar tabs & the Gym membership alone!
When you are in business, there are taxes to pay. Equipment purchases are a tax deduction.
Also, most tree companies gross enough so that spending even as little as $10,000/ year is easily done.
Heck, I know contractors who spend more than that on the Golf Club membership, bar tabs & the Gym membership alone!
- Location
- Ontario, Canada
Re: Lazarus2 and Chris Cowell?
Frans, spending the money for a tool isn't the question in my case rather it's being boned in excess of a couple of hundred bucks extra on something that shouldn't cost that much more.
Design factors went into Buckinghams saddles, the quantity and quality of material is similar.
The costs shouldn't be that much more in my opinion.
I'm sure Buckingham isn't losing money selling their products.
I can see a slight increase in price but that's some serious coin when you consider the number of saddles that will be sold over the next few years.
Frans, spending the money for a tool isn't the question in my case rather it's being boned in excess of a couple of hundred bucks extra on something that shouldn't cost that much more.
Design factors went into Buckinghams saddles, the quantity and quality of material is similar.
The costs shouldn't be that much more in my opinion.
I'm sure Buckingham isn't losing money selling their products.
I can see a slight increase in price but that's some serious coin when you consider the number of saddles that will be sold over the next few years.
- Location
- Overland Park, Kansas
Re: Lazarus2 and Chris Cowell?
Yeah, I'm all about people making money....It just won't be mine. I can't see spending close 2 200 bucks more for this saddle as compared to the other "top" saddles on the market. It just seems excessive. I hope they hadn't planned on selling mass volumes of these units. As i see it it's just not gonna happen over the long haul..
Good luck though...
Yeah, I'm all about people making money....It just won't be mine. I can't see spending close 2 200 bucks more for this saddle as compared to the other "top" saddles on the market. It just seems excessive. I hope they hadn't planned on selling mass volumes of these units. As i see it it's just not gonna happen over the long haul..
Good luck though...
Re: Lazarus2 and Chris Cowell?
i think im right in saying that the tree motion and the tree flex are within a couple of quid of each other in this country.....i'll be interested to see what the tree flex retails at in the states.
i think im right in saying that the tree motion and the tree flex are within a couple of quid of each other in this country.....i'll be interested to see what the tree flex retails at in the states.
Re: Lazarus2 and Chris Cowell?
not in a squillion years haha
not in a squillion years haha
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- Home of the New Jersey Devils
Re: Lazarus2 and Chris Cowell?
Say now Birthday Boy!
Say now Birthday Boy!
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