Top-anchor idea

Crimsonking

Crimsonking

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Maybe this has been done before, but it just hit me two days ago to try it. It's a top anchor that can be retrieved despite natural redirects. (Setup with green sling) Someone showed me another way that I tried but I didn't like how it fed back through the rings when I took weight off my line (traditional setup with black sling). I haven't actually tried my variation in the field yet, as I'm mostly ddrt as I recover from surgery, but I wanted to put this out there for the buzz think tank to try out and critique. The shackle in the photo will be a ring, so it can be retrieved, and the line is for demonstration purposes only (sterling water line).
 

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I used to use that type of anchor frequently on monkey pods, it works well and can be retrieved reliably through several redirects as you say. I just used a ring and ring Fs, I jammed it with a rigging plate and alpine butterfly, although the plate was probably overkill. Peace of mind for me at the time I guess
 
Big spreading canopy tree in hawaii, albizia Saman. Really cool climb. I tied the close to the end of the rope and attached a long accessory cord for retrieval, this way I had my whole rope to climb on, and the accessory cord was much lighter weight, so it didn't pull the knot to the ground
 
Man, I love my appy mtn trees, but the thought of climbing in Hawaii (or Australia) makes me want to relocate.

Cool idea with the accessory cord. I will have to try that.
 
That didn't help. I was hoping you would say something along the lines of, "it's not all it's cracked up to be", or, "it's too hot, the people are rude and the wildlife is dangerous."
Oh well. A friend did just move out there; maybe he needs some tree work done.
 
JontreeHI said:
Big spreading canopy tree in hawaii, albizia Saman. Really cool climb. I tied the close to the end of the rope and attached a long accessory cord for retrieval, this way I had my whole rope to climb on, and the accessory cord was much lighter weight, so it didn't pull the knot to the ground
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I do the same exact thing when I canopy anchor, but I base tie so much now I haven't used it for a while. I would isolate and send up a Running Bowline, move around DdRT until the desired TIP is accessed, then convert to what is pictured. I had 100' of 8mm accessory cord in a tiny pouch that I carried on ascent. Just connect it to the stopper knot side and throw it out to a clear spot. I liked the 8mm cord since there was some amount of meat there if the redirects were really numerous and adding significant friction on retrieval.
 
@JontreeHI,
Did you ever find you might redirect higher than the Canopy Anchor? That was one thing I didn't like at times. I came up with a choking version for that reason. It looked like a PulleySAVER but with a small ring instead of a pulley. You could lay that puppy anywhere in the crown as a cinch and not worry about slippage. Now I cut the ring out and put in a carabiner for a retrievable redirect. Can't go back on that one...ah well. Make another!
 
I was going to say it sounded like a retrievable redirect. I'm sure I would do it from time to time but I don't remember it ever being so bad - why don't you like doing that eric? Just making retrieval more difficult because the higher one takes over the role as psp?
I've sort of abandoned the whole system in truth, if I'm canopy anchored nowadays I either just drag my tail with me or climb back and descend directly below my tip
Mostly basal these days, canopy anchor as secondary
 
JontreeHI said:
I was going to say it sounded like a retrievable redirect. I'm sure I would do it from time to time but I don't remember it ever being so bad - why don't you like doing that eric? Just making retrieval more difficult because the higher one takes over the role as psp?
I've sort of abandoned the whole system in truth, if I'm canopy anchored nowadays I either just drag my tail with me or climb back and descend directly below my tip
Mostly basal these days, canopy anchor as secondary
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I just didn't like going above without a cinched anchor because if the system ever slacked out a bit, it could reorient when loaded back up, and I'd have to find just the right union so it would stay put, unable to slide up or down. It's all based on crown type, I guess. Maples are tough unless going downward from a union.
 
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I see what you mean, makes sense. This was a good system, especially when I was using it was early in srt, more comfy with the canopy anchor combined with redirects, but as discussed in other thread, I'm getting much more out of basal anchor these days, especially as I become more familiar with the forces involved, additional safety factors etc. also, it was a bit cumbersome to set up, not a lot but more than nothing, know what I mean? Occasionally the stopper knot would slack away from the ring and ring and there would be a bit of a jolt as things resettled, and then on retrieval, making sure I know which ring was where, and crashing an FS down (something I've always hated) or messing with throw line (tangle). I'll try most anything but if I can't streamline ill drop it pretty quick. I "waste" enough time with other things as it is
 
Crimsonking said:
Maybe this has been done before, but it just hit me two days ago to try it. It's a top anchor that can be retrieved despite natural redirects. (Setup with green sling) Someone showed me another way that I tried but I didn't like how it fed back through the rings when I took weight off my line (traditional setup with black sling). I haven't actually tried my variation in the field yet, as I'm mostly ddrt as I recover from surgery, but I wanted to put this out there for the buzz think tank to try out and critique. The shackle in the photo will be a ring, so it can be retrieved, and the line is for demonstration purposes only (sterling water line).
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Instead of using a ring to replace the shackle...why not use something like an oval link? It can still be retrieved like a ring but is mid-line attachable. Then, it's an easy transition from a base tie to a canopy anchor.
 
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