to steel core or not to steel core

If you're looking for gear you should open Treebay and make a Looking For ad...I think this was suggested. Lots of saddles with plenty of life in them sitting on shelves.
 
treesap said:
I wonder how it feels being in a saddle like that vs one with leg loops
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No experience with it, but probably not much different. It has the straps between so its not quite like a bonson seat and the seat sits back far enough for free movement of your legs.

The width of the padding I assume is much wider than yours allowing for better weight displacement than your current setup.

Its no Monkeybeaver or treemotion but from the images its a better option than the one that you posted earlier from Weaver.
 
Jehinten said:
No experience with it, but probably not much different. It has the straps between so its not quite like a bonson seat and the seat sits back far enough for free movement of your legs.

The width of the padding I assume is much wider than yours allowing for better weight displacement than your current setup.

Its no Monkeybeaver or treemotion but from the images its a better option than the one that you posted earlier from Weaver.
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defiantly better than what I got, my padding is seemingly rock hard, and only about an inch and a half wide, it cuts off circulation a lot, and @Tom Dunlap I would put an add out, but im broke lol
 
been looking at that notch sentry, I might have to pick one up, side D's are a must, only being able to use a belay loop sucks, especially on spikes, being only $50 I might give it a shot, seems safer than some of the "X Xben" or "YXGood" harnesses I see on amazon
 
The xygood petzl sequoia knock-off is actually a pretty good harness and can be made even better (albeit you double the cost) by replacing the factory webbing bridge setup with a name brand rope bridge and petzl open rings. My buddy [rec] climbs and saddle hunts on one modded as above.

Not a direct clone of a Sequoia, WAY less adjustable but for $75 it's eons above the $50 notch 4-D. I wouldn't hesitate to use it, even at work for a day if I had to. The only thing I didn't think seemed serviceable was the factory webbing bridge, if you didn't want to go all out and put $50 worth of petzl rings & $20 tremo sewn bridge on a $75 harness you could simply cut the webbing off and tie a piece of rope on the factory rings.
 
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id kinda have to get the notch sentry floating D version, because my dad doesnt like me using weird off brand/knockoff equipment, and I also want to try the buttstrap style, should be good
 
treesap said:
id kinda have to get the notch sentry floating D version, because my dad doesnt like me using weird off brand/knockoff equipment, and I also want to try the buttstrap style, should be good
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The buttstrap harnesses pinch your man parts. Why can't you just save up and get a better one?
 
Treezybreez said:
The buttstrap harnesses pinch your man parts. Why can't you just save up and get a better one?
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I need to get a harness that fits before I outgrow the one I have, my rock harness is at full size and I can hardly fit in it if im wearing anything thicker than sweat shorts, I want a better one, but I dont have a job, (I could get one but noone wants to hire a 14yo and before you ask, yes it would be legal where I live), and, the $50 for that sentry wouldnt be to bad to get by till I can afford a treemotion or monkeybeaver
 
Dude, if you can pinch pennies and save up $50 you can save 25 more and get that xygood harness. It'll be better for you to learn on than the 4D, it's got a real bridge (just tie a piece of rope you already have on) and a modern suspension setup.
If your long term goal is a TM on MB why spend time and money learning a totally different style butt strap saddle now?
 
Cereal_Killer said:
Dude, if you can pinch pennies and save up $50 you can save 25 more and get that xygood harness. It'll be better for you to learn on than the 4D, it's got a real bridge (just tie a piece of rope you already have on) and a modern suspension setup.
If your long term goal is a TM on MB why spend time and money learning a totally different style butt strap saddle now?
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my dad would not leke me on the xygood, and the notch harness im looking at has a bridge
and the notch has better padding, which I need, (I have no "Natural" padding, mine is just bone)
 
Well your ways are wrong. But whatever kid, it's your money to waist.
Also, since your brand new, you don't technically have any ways yet... Just trying to help but what do us production climbers who do this every single day know that a 14 year old kid doesn't.

treesap said:
htps://sherrilltree.com/notch-sentry-floating-d-harness/ this is what im looking at
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Thats not a rope bridge in the way the rest of us are referring, that's a sliding central attachment. A true floating bridge would be connected to the forward D's (which that type of saddle doesn't have) which are connected between the leg loops and, via risers, to the waist belt. This suspends your weight at a halfway point between just your waste and just your legs. You don't need as much padding when you have a properly laid out suspension setup on your harness.
 
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tbh, I dont know much about harnesses, thats why im asking you guys (People that use them all day everyday) for advise, apparently I should atleast do a little research first so I dont look stupid, anyways, back to scraping the couch out for pennies, be back in a year when I can afford a better harness
 
looks like im going with the treemotion, would be great to be able to try one for the day to see how much I like it tho, all that adjustment looks like it would be awesome, just dont let anyone borrow it
 
Since the kid doest want to listen to me someone tell him you don't have to spend $600 for the style of saddle he needs.
The Courant Koala and SingingRock Timber 3D are both modern arborist saddles fully work rated and CE certified and built by trusted manufacturers.
They both offer all the features he's needing, comparable to a TM or MB or Sequoia, at less than half the price.
 
its not that I dont wanna listen to you, im not trusting my life to some cheap chinese harness, and infact, the treemotion and monkeybeaver will NOT be the first ones I get, I was looking at some of the weaver saddles (particularly the weaver cougar). you dont gotta treat me like a piece of crap just because my opinion isnt the same as yours
 
I was never trying to talk you into a "cheap chinese harness", simply trying to talk you out of throwing money away on that useless notch saddle (which BTW is made in China). I simply mentioned the xygood harness was a serviceable option better than what you were considering on your own...

Also I'm not treating you like a piece of crap because our opinions differ, I'll admit I'm being harsh yes but it's because I have kids your age and you're making bad decisions that no one here wants to see you make. I assume your parents arnt in this industry and therefor have little knowledge of what you're doing or advice to offer you (this is in no way a jab at them, there's a billion things I have zero knowledge of, I just happen to have a little knowledge of the subject at hand), if anything my intent is to advocate for you in their place and not let you kill yourself. I want to see you succeed. It gives me hope for your generation to see kids like you out here asking questions and learning and doing. Don't think I'm singling you out or picking on you but you can bet your ass I'm gonna keep right on being the harsh, vulgar, opinionated blue collar asshole I always am!

We don't have to be buddy buddy for me to want you to succeed. I've had it out with a couple other [adult] guys on this forum and we still post back and forth in threads and communicate in the name of helping each, and everyone else out. It's professionalism prevailing over otherwise butting heads. Im not here to treat you like shit.
 
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