Tie-in fail

[Richard Mumford-yoyoman]

Here's a tip, break a few small branches for a good feel of the tree.

 

[Steve Connally]

If your gut says don't do it, I'm not sure about it for any reason. Don't do it. If you have an experienced person with you who isn't dollar driven, get a second opinion. Experience is everything. There are plenty of trees im not too proud to walk away from. I could get his by a bus 5 min from now but I stay away from things where the odds are already against my safety. Except riding my indian.

 

[Daniel]

Put ash at the top of the list.. dead ash just slightly higher than live ash... white oak and cherry at the bottom..

 

[JeffGu]

+1

 

[Leroy]

Put ash at the top of the list.. dead ash just slightly higher than live ash... white oak and cherry at the bottom..

Must be a regional thing because around here green ash are some of the strongest.

 

[treebing]

i think of live ash as being very strong and holds its hinge incredibly well. I don't trust cherry very much.

 

[Daniel]

I've rigged some decent sized stuff off dead cherry, bark all off and punky sapwood.. And seen live white oaks 95%is decay at the base and huge heavy tops, hold on for years... We don't get much green ash around here.. not even sure what that is... white ash is the one I don't trust... my metor says he bombed a piece out of a dead ash and the whole tree just fell out from uder him. fortunately he was tied into another tree... but that is just from making a cut, no ropes...
He gave me a hard time for having one man pull by hand to take 10' of trunk out of a dead ash, after I had bombed the top 40' which had plenty of lean... no way one man could out that much moment on the tree, but still he didn't trust it, cause it was dead ash!

 

[CanadianStan]

In general...any tree without a defect is more than strong enough to climb. How a tree deals with wounds and defects is the telling issue.

Dr. Shigo said that aspens are more closely related to a stalk of celery when it comes to isolating wounds than they are to trees. Almost zero capacity to compartmentalize decay. On the other hand, white and live oaks are probably the best of the trees here in North America.

I almost want to say that western red cedar may rival oaks for compartmentalization ... I've seen some 20m+ circumference cedars on Vancouver Island that are estimated to be over 2000 years old ... They're still full of greenery up top!

 

[Treetopflyer]

i think of live ash as being very strong and holds its hinge incredibly well. I don't trust cherry very much.

My grandfather had a cherry t.I.p. break out on him ..fell 40 feet landed on his ass on his saw..so I don't trust them either

 

[TimBr]

Thanks for that data point.

 

[JeffGu]

...landed on his ass on his saw...

Ummm.... ouch? Did this, by chance, require a 2x4 operation? Two doctors and four hours to remove the saw?